[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)

[osgood]

He sure is……. Whilst keeping an eye on the rest of Russia….. and Israel ..….whilst protecting Crimea……whilst attacking Ukraine ….. propping up the Russian economy……and coseying up to his few remaining allies. All with a big target on his back!!

If only Trump could see sense.

 

[Triggaaar]

And Trump helpfully says that it was a mistake to kick Russia out of the G8 and had they still been in it there wouldn’t have been a war.

So Zelenskyy didn't start it then?

 

[osgood]

If only Trump hadn't been recruited by the KGB in 1987 !

 

[osgood]

If only Trump hadn't been recruited by the KGB in 1987!

 

[osgood]

He sure is……. Whilst keeping an eye on the rest of Russia….. and Israel ..….whilst protecting Crimea……whilst attacking Ukraine ….. propping up the Russian economy……and coseying up to his few remaining allies. All with a big target on his back!!

If only Trump could see sense.

If only Trump hadn't been recruited by the KGB in 1987 !

 

[raymondo]

I can believe that this was proposed by Russia. In fact, I'm surprised it hasn't been proposed by Russia before now.

As one reply says ..."take Putin's daughter hostage in France and exchange her for the children"

 

[raymondo]

 

[raymondo]

Heavy strikes again

 

[Eric the meek]

Heavy strikes again

It's Grozny all over again.

Putin won't stop until Kyiv is reduced to rubble.

 

[raymondo]

It's Grozny all over again.

Putin won't stop until Kyiv is reduced to rubble.

I had the sense (maybe wrong) a few months back that Kyiv was being hit less. It's the opposite now.

 

[Eric the meek]

I had the sense (maybe wrong) a few months back that Kyiv was being hit less. It's the opposite now.

You can look at this from several angles.

1. He has previous on laying waste to places he attacks. e.g. Grozny, Mariupol.
2. He is throwing the kitchen sink at his war. On day 1209, he is still able to field hundreds of drones and 32 missiles.
3. He sees an opportunity while Trump is occupied by Israel/Iran.
4. He seems to be in a hurry.
5. Despite the variety of hybrid tactics he employs, in crisis mode against a victim fighting back hard, he seems to be reverting to the tried and tested means. This suggests a lack of imagination.

 

[raymondo]

You can look at this from several angles.

1. He has previous on laying waste to places he attacks. e.g. Grozny, Mariupol.
2. He is throwing the kitchen sink at his war. On day 1209, he is still able to field hundreds of drones and 32 missiles.
3. He sees an opportunity while Trump is occupied by Israel/Iran.
4. He seems to be in a hurry.
5. Despite the variety of hybrid tactics he employs, in crisis mode against a victim fighting back hard, he seems to be reverting to the tried and tested means. This suggests a lack of imagination.

It's a 'good' list.
Ukraine needs to take out more of the Russian drone factories - I wonder how many there are? Are they centralised or dispersed - no idea.

 

[raymondo]

There needs to be SOMETHING from Europe/UK/US to push back on these now daily assaults.
- US agreement to sell Ukraine weapons and Patriot defence
- Taurus
- something other than words
I'm not holding my breath

 

[Eric the meek]

It's a 'good' list.
Ukraine needs to take out more of the Russian drone factories - I wonder how many there are? Are they centralised or dispersed - no idea.

We know where one is - at Yelabuga/Alabuga (sp.) in Tatarstan, as Ukraine have just hit it again.

I also read somewhere that some components came from Iran. Assuming the Israelis are doing their job and attacking the Iranian counterpart(s), then the output from Yelabuga should shortly be compromised.

 

[raymondo]

We know where one is - at Yelabuga/Alabuga (sp.) in Tatarstan, as Ukraine have just hit it again.

I also read somewhere that some components came from Iran. Assuming the Israelis are doing their job and attacking the Iranian counterpart(s), then the output from Yelabuga should shortly be compromised.

Yes, I think there's a mix of assembly and manufacturing going on there.
I'm surprised Ukraine hasn't hit it more regularly - maybe it has good air defence?

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

It's a 'good' list.
Ukraine needs to take out more of the Russian drone factories - I wonder how many there are? Are they centralised or dispersed - no idea.

They are mostly in China