fly high
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Can't see Putin agreeing to any of that but have to make maximum demands first.
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[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)
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Can't see Putin agreeing to any of that but have to make maximum demands first.
Yeah, he won't agree to any. When he's lost ALL his bombers he may start.
fly high
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Truck driver said he was just told to drive to this place
Such joy. Where news of Ukraine is concerned it really lifts the spirits.
fly high
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We are finally going to do something. A message to Moscow. Backs up the one Ukraine sent today.
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Defence review to send 'message to Moscow', says Healey
At least six new factories will be built and up to 7,000 UK-built long-range weapons will be procured.
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GoldstoneVintage
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Weekend Update#135 (Update): The Ukrainians Just Pulled Off The Most Successful Operation Of The War
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Seagull58
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"£1.5 billion to build six new factories to make munitions", to deal with Russian cyber attacks?We are finally going to do something. A message to Moscow. Backs up the one Ukraine sent today.
Defence review to send 'message to Moscow', says Healey
At least six new factories will be built and up to 7,000 UK-built long-range weapons will be procured.
Having said that, we must be militarily self-sufficient because the US are OUT.
Why would they? It's not like the US are giving loads of support that could be removed.
vegster
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Because it shows that you can fill an average looking truck with drones, drive to within a mile or so of a target and.... unleash hell !
It forces Russia to withdraw air defence and manpower deeper in to Russia weakening the Russian offensive. Nothing is safe !
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Because Russian FSB would work that bit out anyway, Ukraine releasing it humiliates Russia?
it also creates paranoia inside Russia that every regular truck (which cant all be policed) could be a trojan drone deliverer
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That's the point. Ukraine is no longer bound by any limiting decisions Washington may choose to make.
So they now make their own operational decisions and did not give the US the opportunity of a veto.
Instead they presented the US with a fait accompli.
A byproduct of this is that the US has lost the influence to control its own peace process. We kind of knew that Russia would ignore it, but it is a major advance for Ukraine to step over that threshold.
How far Ukraine has come.
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It also showcases to the world:
1. Ukrainian creativity, ingenuity and indefatigability.
2. Russian vulnerability. The vastness of Russia is not a strength; it is a weakness, because Russia cannot possibly defend it all.
3. Ukraine's ability to win the war.
4. A lesson for all nations downtrodden by Russia. The lesson that Russia can be beaten.
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Unfortunately this looks have been inaccurate, as Anton Geraschenko has posted that this may have been in Olenogorsk, near the Olenya air base.
The following would lend credence to this:
The building opposite the camera in the second video above appears to this apartment block in Olenogorsk, which is direclty in line with the airfield on the other side of the river
I guess much of it is from local Russians uploading but yeah, I'm a bit surprised they published photos of the drones inside the trucks for e.g.
Russia will be stopping every container truck they see for the next few weeks.
Edit: @peterward has covered this better I think
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Very clever of Zelensky, sowing ridicule and incompetence in the FSB.
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There's more.