I don't think so. Surely the US would have only limited where US arms were used? I suspect Ukraine are just getting better and more creative.
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[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)
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I don't think so. Surely the US would have only limited where US arms were used? I suspect Ukraine are just getting better and more creative.
Scappa
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This has now been debunked - apologies for not fact checking. See post 26,795 for clarification. Leaving it here behind spoilers for the sake of completeness
There are reports that a nuclear submarine may have been turned into a reef in Severomorsk, the main naval base of the Russian Northern Fleet. The local governor has denied reports of an explosion, despite video evidence of a giant plume of smoke over the city
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Extract from the British journo: "not clear how the attack was orchestrated, but given the small size of the drones involved, it’s likely that it was launched from inside Russia.".
Wow, if true
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This is a bloody fantastic day
Abso-bloody-lutely astonishingCrimean Wind on Telegram:
SBU drones flying out of trucks targeted Russian planes attacking Ukraine. The special operation was called "Web".
Four most important airfields of the Russian Air Force were under attack:
"Olenya" - long-range aviation airfield of the Russian Federation, Kola Peninsula, Murmansk region (2000 km);
According to preliminary data, the consequences of the operation are estimated at more than $2 billion in losses for Russian aviation.
Social networks write that 41 strategic aircraft were destroyed. Another 11 were injured, but spare parts and components are needed to repair them, which Russia does not have.
Among the "irreversible losses" are 6 TU 95 MS missile carriers.
The cost of one Ukrainian FPV drone is $300-600, while the modernized Russian strategic bomber Tu-95MS is estimated at more than $100 million. Thus, the difference in cost exceeds 100,000 times.
But most importantly, the destruction of the strategic aviation of the Russian Federation is a blow to its nuclear potential.
It was reported that as of March 2024, Russia had 5 such boards left. The destruction of each complicates airspace control, air defense coordination and air operations.
In addition, the Tu-160, Tu-95 and A-50 are Soviet developments, the production of which has either been completely stopped or technically impossible under conditions of sanctions and lack of components
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TV channels report that the fifth Russian airfield ("Voznesensk") caught fire in the Moscow region
Thanks for the detail... amazing stuffCrimean Wind on Telegram:
SBU drones flying out of trucks targeted Russian planes attacking Ukraine. The special operation was called "Web".
Four most important airfields of the Russian Air Force were under attack:
According to preliminary data, the consequences of the operation are estimated at more than $2 billion in losses for Russian aviation.
Social networks write that 41 strategic aircraft were destroyed. Another 11 were injured, but spare parts and components are needed to repair them, which Russia does not have.
Among the "irreversible losses" are 6 TU 95 MS missile carriers.
The cost of one Ukrainian FPV drone is $300-600, while the modernized Russian strategic bomber Tu-95MS is estimated at more than $100 million. Thus, the difference in cost exceeds 100,000 times.
But most importantly, the destruction of the strategic aviation of the Russian Federation is a blow to its nuclear potential.
It was reported that as of March 2024, Russia had 5 such boards left. The destruction of each complicates airspace control, air defense coordination and air operations.
In addition, the Tu-160, Tu-95 and A-50 are Soviet developments, the production of which has either been completely stopped or technically impossible under conditions of sanctions and lack of components
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TV channels report that the fifth Russian airfield ("Voznesensk") caught fire in the Moscow region
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Intriguing yes. Intriguing also because of the wording. Ukraine notified the Trump administration.
Specifically then, Ukraine did not ask for permission to do it.
"Hey,Donald, we have a couple of trucks, camouflaged as wooden houses, carrying a few drones, in the Russian countryside...is that ok with you?"
"Yeah, sure,whatever " . (Chuckle) "These Ukrainians are funny sometimes, eh Vancey? ".
fly high
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And using their own weapons, didn't use US ones.
I think Ukraine was held back a bit due to the weekly fear of 'Russian escalation ' (they escalated daily of course).
I think it's a mix of creativity/drone expertise,as you rightly say, plus increasing US disinterest.
fly high
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Crimea wind report backs that up.