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Paul Scholes retires from international football



Northstander

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Oct 13, 2003
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What exactly has scholes achieved in an England shirt, he is a good player I agree but hasn't won anything!

In Manchester top is he idangerous and adds to the quality, sorry but I have an issue with England.

A team of prima donnas who need bringing down a peg or two.

Well done Sholes and good luck for the future but Lampard is better!!!

:clap:
 




Scotty Mac

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Jul 13, 2003
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ChapmansThe Saviour said:
It will be interesting to see whether Scholes is all over the tele. I can't see it myself. Probab;y because he is a GINGER, no?

and because he don't seem the type to go for the fame and fortune. he plays because he loves the game. thats why he aint got an agent
 


alan partridge

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Willow said:
What a crock of shit. Paul Scholes is a family man, not the sort to get caught up in front page scandals. If, as Clapham Gull suggests, he doesnt even have an agent, then he's the complete opposite of the average modern footballer!

Stop trying to double guess his reasons.

was going to say more or less the same thing.

Trying to hold scholes up as some example of 'modern premiership cash rich dumb' footballers is ridiculous. It's obvious to anyone that Scholes is a quiet lad who likes playing football.

I'm amazed he's retired. Perhaps he is sick of the constant shite in the newspapers connected with England.
 


Uncle Buck

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Jul 7, 2003
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Icy Gull said:
There are a hard core of people who think exactly like you Chappers.

Beckham, Gerrard and Scoles should play , irrespective of form because of what they have been. We have taken this route for longer than I can remember. Every tournament we end up with the "old guard" who are always a disappointment, for whatever reason.

Sven is the only man for the job so we'd best keep him.

Etc etc.

Me? I'd go down the route the French took 8 years or so ago. Start from scratch and if it means missing out on a World Cup or a European Championship so be it. Let's build a team that is a squad that is interchangeable depending on the game with a manager who has some flair.

It'll never happen so you , Chappers, will never be proved wrong but I'm willing to bet that you NEVER see a World or European championship winning English team in your lifetime.

This just gets boring in the end, it is obvious that a lot of you only watch the tournaments, Scholes although he did not score for 3 years, contribute to the side, like the performance in Istanbul.

Scholes was one of our few world class players, hindered by being played out of position. Sven in a way has been correct to stick by players as it has added some consistency to selection not seen since Robson.

However you lot from your keyboards are correct and people who dare to differ from yours and NSC's almighty opinion most be shot down.
 






alan partridge

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The Northstander said:
What exactly has scholes achieved in an England shirt, he is a good player I agree but hasn't won anything!


this is something I can't believe people say. Only one team every 2 years 'wins something'. only 7 teams EVER have won the wc. Infact only 11 players ever have 'won anything' with England. It ain't something that happens regularly.
 


Marc

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surprised by that, shocked that he used his family as an excuse not to proudly wear the 3 lions. He should be ashamed of himself, EVERY players ambition should be to proudly line up for England and hear the national anthem played. I thought Shearer went too early but at 29 Scholes is just wussing out.

OK he never reproduced his Man U form for England but still...he's turning his back on his country IMO...WANKER :angry:
 


alan partridge

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Uncle Buck said:
Sven in a way has been correct to stick by players as it has added some consistency to selection not seen since Robson.

I agree. Over the last 4 years of tournaments the England team has been a strong team. I want this set of players AND the manager to at least have one more chance of breaking through and bettering the last 2 final 8 finishes.
 




CHAPPERS

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Jul 5, 2003
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Scotty M said:
and because he don't seem the type to go for the fame and fortune. he plays because he loves the game. thats why he aint got an agent

Exactly. He's retired for his own reasons. He should not be shot down in flames for it. Scholes should be thanked for what he has done for England because without him we are going to have a hard time.

IMHO.
 


Hannibal smith

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Jul 7, 2003
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Willow said:
What a crock of shit. Paul Scholes is a family man, not the sort to get caught up in front page scandals. If, as Clapham Gull suggests, he doesnt even have an agent, then he's the complete opposite of the average modern footballer!

Stop trying to double guess his reasons.

Agreed, Scholes isn't the type to get caught up in a front page scandal. I was generalising about the Engalnd players, however, is retiring from International football at the age of 29 the attitude of a winner who wants to acheive all he can in football? I don't think so and I don't think other than Lampard, Ashley Cole and Rooney any other England players showed that mentality at Euro 2004.

I also do not think it is a coincidence that each of those players had a point to prove about thier worth in the England set up. It's a shame - We should achieve more, much more as a national team but the players do not want to bust a gut to do so.
 


Northstander

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Oct 13, 2003
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If he cant transfer to the International side what he does for club side why does he get paid so much?

This is being directed only at Scholes but all them prima donaa players...Beckham, Scholes, Owen all guaranteed a game under Sven even if legs are in plaster!!
 




CHAPPERS

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Jul 5, 2003
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CrabtreeBHA said:
surprised by that, shocked that he used his family as an excuse not to proudly wear the 3 lions. He should be ashamed of himself, EVERY players ambition should be to proudly line up for England and hear the national anthem played. I thought Shearer went too early but at 29 Scholes is just wussing out.

OK he never reproduced his Man U form for England but still...he's turning his back on his country IMO...WANKER :angry:

What a load of SHIT that is.
 


Willow

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Jul 6, 2003
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Hannibal smith said:
Shearer to my mind is probably worse than scholes. If he really wanted to spend time with the family (as he suggested at the time), then he wouldn't be on Sky everytime there is an England game offering his expert opinion.

Hannibal, you've got to stop putting your foot in it. The punditry role is a one day job at most. The England players don't just turn up half an hour before kick off you know.

Sorry but you've picked on two of my three favourite internationals of recent times. It'll be big Sol next. :angry:

:lolol:
 


Marc

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ChapmansThe Saviour said:
What a load of SHIT that is.

just my opinion MAXWELL

Yeah alright he done alot of England and I applaud him for that, but he knows he's not good enough and taking the back route out "IMO" :)
 




Uncle Buck

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Jul 7, 2003
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He has probably also taken the decision similar to Shearer that he no longer feels he can represent both sides to the best of his ability.

All those slagging him off because he wants to get a couple more years club football, well the reality is the earning span can be short for a lot of these guys, so what is wrong with cashing in. He has a family to look after and potentially after football, he may not earn for a while, granted that the money he has made, should mean unless he spunks cash like Kitson, he will not need to work again.
 


alan partridge

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Hannibal smith said:
We should achieve more, much more as a national team but the players do not want to bust a gut to do so.

why should we? history? tradition? culture? yep we should.....but those things don't breed talented footballers.

Look at France, Spain and Italy. The last two have the other two strongest leagues in the world and while ours maybe more exciting theirs are technically better. Then there is France...they have undeniably some of the best players in Europe, and are seen as most as THE best team in Europe.

The current England team and Manager have equalled or surpassed their achievements in the last 2 major tournaments. I'm only 32 but in my years of painfully watching England this current squad and manager makes me feel SLIGHTLY* more at ease than in the past.


*only slightly. Watching England is never easy
 


SK1NT

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Sep 9, 2003
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he couldnt cut it anymore anyway! good but not a great loss!
 


Icy Gull

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Jul 5, 2003
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Uncle Buck said:


However you lot from your keyboards are correct and people who dare to differ from yours and NSC's almighty opinion most be shot down.

How fecking condescending of you, when have I suggested that I am right therefore everyone who disagrees is wrong? I merely have a different opinion to you. YOU are the one who can't accept that others have another opinion without slagging them off. Your footstamping tantrums about the new shirts being an excellent example.
 
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Dover

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Oct 5, 2003
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Good luck to Mr. Scholes. A fantastic player who has always excited when on the pitch. I hope he continues to have a lengthy league carrer, and stays injury free.
 


alan partridge

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The Northstander said:
all them prima donaa players...Beckham, Scholes, Owen all guaranteed a game under Sven even if legs are in plaster!!

yeah, beckham and owen have NEVER done anything for England have they?
 


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