Owen
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Simster said:
But we didnt deserve to win - even tho we had a perfectly good goal dis allowed
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KinkyGoebels said:
no disputing that, and had rooney not got injured it would of been a very different game
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Scotty M said:
I thought the substitution of Rooney was the issue. Vassell and Owen were so similar, it was about the only time I actually wanted to see Heskey on the pitch, scary.
with the players we have in this country an injury to one player shouldnt matter - no matter who it is
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KinkyGoebels said:
it does when vassel is put on up front
Uncle Buck said:
Or defoe should have been there
Scotty M said:it does when vassel is put on up front
Well thats svens fault
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KinkyGoebels said:
a poor decision - however, im sure the vast majority of the country would rather have seen him on than heskey
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KinkyGoebels said:
But then I guess the issue with England is they have a decent starting 11, but some of the cover players are not as good. France without Zidane have looked a shadow of their former selves, so much so that he has come out of retirement.
England without Beckham often do not look as good (cue flaming), but it is true.
What England need to sort out of balancing that side and the current midfield looks too attacking and a holding player is needed.
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KinkyGoebels said:
In fairness I think Sven said in retrospect he would have taken him, however he had played most of that season in the First Division. But then Owen and Defoe are the same sort of player and Defoe has yet to convince that he is ready. He did well in Katowice, but in the Wales game at Old Trafford he almost tried to hard and a couple of times did not pass the ball when he should have.
Scotty M said:
I rate Heskey as a sub - like ub said i would have prefered him than dv
Uncle Buck said:
To be fair they were smashing balls at his head!
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KinkyGoebels said:
I do think it is about having a bit of variety within the squad and Heskey or Crouch offer that from the Owen, Vassell, Johnson, Defoe type of player.
The one that is different from the rest of the strikers is Rooney, but then he is a hell of a talent.
i agree - but the formationb on sat does not suit him as he is not a lone striker type.
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KinkyGoebels said:
It seemed to be a case of trying too hard. I am yet to be convinced by Defoe at international level, but then his chances have been limited. Just get this niggling feeling he is going to be like Ian Wright that he should have done better in an England shirt.
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KinkyGoebels said:
Simply because he likes to go deep to find the ball and so is better employed behind Owen.
but even wright didnt have that many chances for england did he?
Behing sas all the time
Behing sas all the time
Uncle Buck said:
Thats why Teddy was and is such a good player at times he drops so deep he is in his own half
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KinkyGoebels said:
According to the FA site he played 33 times. But he did make his debut in 1991 against Cameroon and played on until about 1998.