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Stevie Boy

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dougdeep

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I would think he will play tomorrow. Hopefully with Turienzo.
 


fosters headband

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dougdeep said:
I would think he will play tomorrow. Hopefully with Turienzo.

Do you really think he will change the team again after yesterday.

This is what the Millwall fans said about MM, wont keep a settled side and plays players out of position.

I would love him to keep a team together for 3 or 4 games without changes, injuries permitting.
 






Yorkie

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Jul 5, 2003
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fosters headband said:
Do you really think he will change the team again after yesterday.

This is what the Millwall fans said about MM, wont keep a settled side and plays players out of position.

I would love him to keep a team together for 3 or 4 games without changes, injuries permitting.

Horses for courses. We actually have a bit of a squad now and McGhee said himself that if we had fielded a more physical side yesterday we would have been playing right into Preston's hands.

When we've had 4 games in 8 days it makes sense to move the squad round a bit.
 


Brighton Breezy

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Goring Gull said:
Taxi for Oatway, preferably to Crawley i'm sure he could do a job for them.

Jarret was going to on loan to Crawley last year but because he couldnt drive was demanding taxi rides there and back and they pulled the plug.
 


fosters headband said:
Do you really think he will change the team again after yesterday.

This is what the Millwall fans said about MM, wont keep a settled side and plays players out of position.

I would love him to keep a team together for 3 or 4 games without changes, injuries permitting.

And the Millwall fans were too thick to understand that changing a line-up to cope with the different demands of the opposition is a GOOD thing. I'm hoping Brighton fans won't fall into that simple-minded trap.
 




B.W.

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London Irish said:
And the Millwall fans were too thick to understand that changing a line-up to cope with the different demands of the opposition is a GOOD thing. I'm hoping Brighton fans won't fall into that simple-minded trap.

Yes, but good teams are usually built around a fairly consistent first-11, with only limited tinkering...

That said, we need to rotate with the recent schedule...

Also, we don't really have a good squad as yet... we have very limited cover at cd and lb (in fact, we don't really have a Championship-standard lb)... hence MM's (currently failed) search for players in those positions...

We also lack a creative central midfielder... another position MM would like to strengthen with a signing...

Two days left and counting, then it's loans only until Jan...

I have been saying all along we were too slow in getting players in, and now MM admits as much...
 


Yorkie

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B.W. said:


I have been saying all along we were too slow in getting players in, and now MM admits as much...

If you're going to quote MM then use the whole quote and not a phrase out of context.

Argus report

Albion manager Mark McGhee admitted today that more new faces should have been brought in.

McGhee's quest to strengthen his struggling Championship squad continues before the transfer window closes on Wednesday.

He will only be able to sign players on loan after that up until January, when the window re-opens.

"We are working overtime," McGhee said. "We are trying to do it before the deadline. It has concerned me a wee bit that we haven't done it well enough.

"We've brought in a couple of lads from overseas but we should have done more business by now.

"We haven't, so I am disappointed at that and looking closely at why that is but it is a long season and we still have time over the season to bring in players."
 


B.W. said:
Yes, but good teams are usually built around a fairly consistent first-11, with only limited tinkering...

I don't think that's the case any more, even at the higher level, where Mourinho has two teams, or in our circumstances, when we don't have the players to dictate to the best teams in our league, but we do have different combinations that can probe specific weaknesses in each of our differing oppositions.

Take yesterday.

The small front line was deployed because McGhee believed the tall Preston centre-backs would be vulnerable to quick movement. Although we never really created the killer chances, it worked to an extent that Robinson certainly was able to find some space in the final third, how well he used it, that's a different matter.

Also, if you look at the height advantage that Preston had yesterday, look at how little attempt Preston made to exploit it.

That's because they play in a very predictable, passing on the floor style, and McGhee could fairly easily predict that they would not turn the game too direct, so we did not have to worry overmuch that Preston would turn the game into a heading contest. By the second-half, our smaller players were frustrating the passing triangles of Preston. So McGhee's gameplan did bear some fruit - even though we were lucky at times with Preston's lack of real class up front.
 
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Yorkie said:
If you're going to quote MM then use the whole quote and not a phrase out of context.

Argus report

Albion manager Mark McGhee admitted today that more new faces should have been brought in.

McGhee's quest to strengthen his struggling Championship squad continues before the transfer window closes on Wednesday.

He will only be able to sign players on loan after that up until January, when the window re-opens.

"We are working overtime," McGhee said. "We are trying to do it before the deadline. It has concerned me a wee bit that we haven't done it well enough.

"We've brought in a couple of lads from overseas but we should have done more business by now.

"We haven't, so I am disappointed at that and looking closely at why that is but it is a long season and we still have time over the season to bring in players."

Yep. BW - there was a big back-page story in the Argus as long as two weeks ago (I think, might have been further back) when McGhee said he was now looking beyond the transfer deadline to find the right players. Remember, the loan regulations make this a somewhat artificial barrier anyway.
 


B.W.

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Yorkie said:
If you're going to quote MM then use the whole quote and not a phrase out of context.

Argus report

Albion manager Mark McGhee admitted today that more new faces should have been brought in.

McGhee's quest to strengthen his struggling Championship squad continues before the transfer window closes on Wednesday.

He will only be able to sign players on loan after that up until January, when the window re-opens.

"We are working overtime," McGhee said. "We are trying to do it before the deadline. It has concerned me a wee bit that we haven't done it well enough.

"We've brought in a couple of lads from overseas but we should have done more business by now.

"We haven't, so I am disappointed at that and looking closely at why that is but it is a long season and we still have time over the season to bring in players."

And your point is?...

MM has been honest and admitted that we need more players, which I have been saying since the start of the close season...

I am not going to stop pointing out what I consider to be the weaknesses in our squad... and I'm not going to start providing full MM quotes every time I make a valid point...

We need a 1st-choice lb, we need a cd, and we need a creative midfielder... we have failed to sign these players for the duration of the close season, throughout pre-season, and since the start of the season... this is not good... end of story...
 


Yorkie

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Jul 5, 2003
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dahn sarf
My point is this phrase

We are working overtime," McGhee said. "We are trying to do it before the deadline. It has concerned me a wee bit that we haven't done it well enough.

You seem to imply that it is lack of effort.
 


B.W.

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London Irish said:
I don't think that's the case any more, even at the higher level, where Mourinho has two teams, or in our circumstances, when we don't have the players to dictate to the best teams in our league, but we do have different combinations that can probe specific weaknesses in each of our differing oppositions.

Take yesterday.

The small front line was deployed because McGhee believed the tall Preston centre-backs would be vulnerable to quick movement. Although we never really created the killer chances, it worked to an extent that Robinson certainly was able to find some space in the final third, how well he used it, that's a different matter.

Also, if you look at the height advantage that Preston had yesterday, look at how little attempt Preston made to exploit it.

That's because they play in a very predictable, passing on the floor style, and McGhee could fairly easily predict that they would not turn the game too direct, so we did not have to worry overmuch that Preston would turn the game into a heading contest. By the second-half, our smaller players were frustrating the passing triangles of Preston. So McGhee's gameplan did bear some fruit - even though we were lucky at times with Preston's lack of real class up front.

Fair point that the game has changed, but even Chelski play a core team, week in, week out, injuries-permitting...

At our level, we clearly have to adapt to our opponents because we have a weak squad, but it would be nice to think that we could play some games to OUR strengths, as well as countering our opponents... MM has got his team to sit back on leads in many games, which we should have won, but have eventually drawn or lost... Crewe being the most recent example... in that game, we should have seized the initiative, not sat back, IMHO...
 




B.W.

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London Irish said:
Yep. BW - there was a big back-page story in the Argus as long as two weeks ago (I think, might have been further back) when McGhee said he was now looking beyond the transfer deadline to find the right players. Remember, the loan regulations make this a somewhat artificial barrier anyway.

... which means we have more limited options to bring players in after the window closes... I am well aware of the loan loop-hole, thank you, LI...

To repeat, we have been TOO SLOW in the transfer market... MM recognises this, why not Yorkie and your good self?...
 


Yorkie

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Jul 5, 2003
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dahn sarf
It is difficult to attract players on the wages we offer and our geographical location.
As McGhee says 'we have been working overtime'
That doesn't imply being slow but that players dont want to come on our terms or managers dont want to let them go (ie Blayney)
 


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