No Kuipers in the squad tomorrow

[London Irish]

George Hook said pretty much the same thing this morning and that if it's tight with ten minutes to go Munsters heart and guts will probably win it.

It's an awful shame this game isn't the first one to open the new era at Croke Park, Lansdowne could have sold 2 or 3 times over.

BTW George Hook is an ex-London Irish manager like Clive Woodward.

Better stop the eggchasing now as that will be the final insult to the Kuipers fan club

 

[rool]

yep back on track.....

 

[Fran Hagarty]

well can we sing michell kuipers the former dutch marine tomorrow then, cos we dont need to 'get behind the team' as much for the last few games. can we, can we pleeasseee

No way. We should be supporting whoever is in goal not singing about someone who isn't.

 

[Fran Hagarty]

Fact is, I'm delighted Kuipers isn't in the team tomorrow. Why on earth would we want to reward a disloyal player who effectively went on strike rather than aid our relegation struggle? It beggars belief that fans of this club would want to reward behaviour like that.

Agreed

 

[ROSM]

Agreed

However, you've never really liked Kuipers have you?

Whether he is or isn't a good player is irrelevant in this issue.

 

[sir danny cullip]

Fact is, I'm delighted Kuipers isn't in the team tomorrow. Why on earth would we want to reward a disloyal player who effectively went on strike rather than aid our relegation struggle? It beggars belief that fans of this club would want to reward behaviour like that.

Im sorry LI that is absolute bollocks, when did kuipers ever effectively go on "strike"?! MM overlooked him when he was doing a sound job in goal and spent 20/30k on a goalkeeper that wasnt essential to keep us in the division, imo that money would have been better spent on a striker and if there wasnt one available then a midfielder. MM DROPPED kuipers from the side and kuipers wasnt happy about his decision, he may have not tried as hard to get back in the team as he should have but I have seen nothing in the past 4/5 years to suggest that michel is a bad professional so imo he can be forgiven for having a little moan when hes on the bench. MM then decided to send kuipers on loan to boston because he is on high wages and he wanted these wages freed up so that he could bring in gifton. Kuipers never went on strike and is not disloyal. If he was in goal tomorrow he would give 100% as he always does for the albion.

 

[Giraffe]

Im sorry LI that is absolute bollocks, when did kuipers ever effectively go on "strike"?! MM overlooked him when he was doing a sound job in goal and spent 20/30k on a goalkeeper that wasnt essential to keep us in the division, imo that money would have been better spent on a striker and if there wasnt one available then a midfielder. MM DROPPED kuipers from the side and kuipers wasnt happy about his decision, he may have not tried as hard to get back in the team as he should have but I have seen nothing in the past 4/5 years to suggest that michel is a bad professional so imo he can be forgiven for having a little moan when hes on the bench. MM then decided to send kuipers on loan to boston because he is on high wages and he wanted these wages freed up so that he could bring in gifton. Kuipers never went on strike and is not disloyal. If he was in goal tomorrow he would give 100% as he always does for the albion.

I recall that when first dropped Kuipers played a complete blinder in the reserves for Worthing to prove McGhee wrong. McGhee then had no choice but to put him in back in but the first chance he got to drop Kuipers after a mistake he was out again. I do rate Henderson but the fact is he does not dominate the box in the same way as FDM and Henderson has let in a lot of goals from crosses with forwards and defenders alike putting the ball past him whilst standing inside the six yard box. An area that Kuipers would dominate.

 

[Yoda]

Im sorry LI that is absolute bollocks, when did kuipers ever effectively go on "strike"?! MM overlooked him when he was doing a sound job in goal and spent 20/30k on a goalkeeper that wasnt essential to keep us in the division, imo that money would have been better spent on a striker and if there wasnt one available then a midfielder. MM DROPPED kuipers from the side and kuipers wasnt happy about his decision, he may have not tried as hard to get back in the team as he should have but I have seen nothing in the past 4/5 years to suggest that michel is a bad professional so imo he can be forgiven for having a little moan when hes on the bench. MM then decided to send kuipers on loan to boston because he is on high wages and he wanted these wages freed up so that he could bring in gifton. Kuipers never went on strike and is not disloyal. If he was in goal tomorrow he would give 100% as he always does for the albion.

And it's not like Michel has gone running off to the papers to cry about it like Leon Shite did. We've only ever heard the story from MM & Leon's point's of view.

 

[ben andrews' girlfriend]

"Spunked" money on Hendo? £20k is spunking money?

Yes - 20k is spunking money -when we could have spent it on a better striker / midfielder / manager

 

[Bwian]

You can pick holes in the performances of both players and you can also compliment both for different reasons.

The plain truth is that FDM threw strop about being dropped and had a stand up row with McGhee. You just can't do that as a so called professional. Gary Hart and Kerry Mayo for example have been in and out of the team yet all they're done is knuckle down and get their places back.

Kuipers has played his last game for this club I think.

Sadly, sums it all up.

I like Kuipers, all the time he has been here we've had (mostly) good times. His kicking and distribution does let him down though-if he'd sorted that aspect of his game out he would have been sold to a bigger club and we wouldn't be having this discussion.

 

[Bwian]

Yes - 20k is spunking money -when we could have spent it on a better striker / midfielder / manager

20k on a better striker / midfielder?

I take it you are participating in a little humour? Where the hell are we going to get a better striker for 20k? Or a better midfielder?

 

[SeagullJay]

Kuipers save at Forest when we won 1-0 last season was absolute quality

and I remember one at Tranmere few years ago from a header when striker had wheeled away to celebrate before FDM somehow put a hand on it

- then he nearly gave a soft goal away and he and Cullip had one of their great 'discussions'

love him or hate him - we won two championships with him

legend

 

[London Irish]

Im sorry LI that is absolute bollocks, when did kuipers ever effectively go on "strike"?! MM overlooked him when he was doing a sound job in goal and spent 20/30k on a goalkeeper that wasnt essential to keep us in the division, imo that money would have been better spent on a striker and if there wasnt one available then a midfielder. MM DROPPED kuipers from the side and kuipers wasnt happy about his decision, he may have not tried as hard to get back in the team as he should have but I have seen nothing in the past 4/5 years to suggest that michel is a bad professional so imo he can be forgiven for having a little moan when hes on the bench. MM then decided to send kuipers on loan to boston because he is on high wages and he wanted these wages freed up so that he could bring in gifton. Kuipers never went on strike and is not disloyal. If he was in goal tomorrow he would give 100% as he always does for the albion.

Sorry fella, you are in complete denial. It was obvious that Michelle Pfeiffer was going AWOL even before he threw his childish tantrum after the Sheffield game. At the Reading reserve game (PRIOR to the Sheffield game) he was badmouthing McGhee to supporters - totally unprofessional behaviour but a sign of his deteriorating state of mind.

McGhee certainly did drop him from the side - AFTER his mistakes in the Sheff Utd game. Breaking news for you - managers of football teams have every right to pick the best side they can and footballers have to acept those decisions.

If a player like him is going to throw OTT tantrums over selection decisions and disrupt team morale, there is no way a conscientious manager can let him near the squad. With this pathetic and immature behaviour, he was disloyal to ALL OF US WHO PAY HIS WAGES. I find this even more hard to take given how much McGhee loyally supported him through his long injury recovery with a new contract.

Too bloody right he was shipped out - at least we would have got something from Boston rather than have this malcontent earning high wages just sitting at home.

Nothing I've seen from Kuipers this season has led me to regret his absence. He was totally ordinary in the heavy Luton defeat, stood there like a statue while things were falling apart in the crucial Millwall game at home and hit a new low when he blamed a youngster like Lynch for his f***-up in the Sheff Utd game. It's a joke to suggest that this record means that he should be outraged at being benched.

No one can take away what he's achieved in the past, but we don't live in the past.

Hendo is our future, will hopefully be here for many seasons to come and you would be better advised getting behind this tremendous young player rather than a disruptive yesterday's man.

 

[Les Biehn]

a sign of his deteriorating state of mind.

Has Kuipers gone mad?

 

[Garry Nelson's Left Foot]

Why can't people sing the 'former dutch marine' song? How does that make Henderson feel unwelcome? You can, you know, like, sing Henderson songs too...

It seems clear that Kuipers won't be with us next season, so why can't the fans give him a fond farewell? Why can't they thank him for the fantastic times he's helped contribute to in the clubs remarkable successes of the past five years? Why can't they let him know that a lot of them hold him in the highest regard?

As L.I likes to say, Henderson is the future, so he has plenty of good times to look forward to with the club(hopefully). Kuipers' time is coming to an end with us so I see no reason why a few rousing renditions of 'former dutch marine' shouldn't be bellowed from the terraces over the next two games.

 

[Garry Nelson's Left Foot]

No way. We should be supporting whoever is in goal not singing about someone who isn't.

Maybe you should change your avatar, Fran. Hendo, or Martin, or Sullivan, or Shagnose, or dare I say it....Kuipers, might read this site and feel demoralised that you have a goalkeeper who no longer has any connection with this club as your avatar.

 

[Silent Bob]

Maybe you should change your avatar, Fran. Hendo, or Martin, or Sullivan, or Shagnose, or dare I say it....Kuipers, might read this site and feel demoralised that you have a goalkeeper who no longer has any connection with this club as your avatar.

 

[ROSM]

This is all a bit dim.

Kuipers was an integral part of the double chamionship squad.

he is a sensitive soul yet despite the number of time he has been dropped he has always come back fighting for his place ............. until now! We can only assume why this dropping has made him act and feel different.

Although I dont recall him demanding to go on loan - he may well have done this in order to get some games under his belt. he certainly hasn't gone running to the press like some others.

If this really is his last season with us then many fans will want to sing of him to give him a good send off. If McGhee has decided he is leaving then what would be the problem of letting him have his farewell? That would show McGhee to be a good man and above all the bickering.

Also, whilst 20k would not have bought a striker, it certainly would have provided towards wages for another player. A striker on loan for two months at 2.5k per week maybe?

 

[ROSM]

Also - hot news for LI. Hendo has made mistakes and it isn't heresy to say that. He may well be an international now but that is for a third rate nation - it's hardly like England or Holland is it?

 

[jonny.rainbow]

Kuipers would've done better with the penalty today.