[News] Nigel Farage and Reform

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dsr-burnley

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Can you show me where any St George flags / county flags are on display on council owned buildings?
It happens. Colne town council flies the St George flag on the Town Hall every day except when the Union Flag is flying. Nelson town council also flies flags from its town hall, but a more varied range - for example, they flew the Palestinian flag during the celebrations of the Queen's platinum jubilee.

Colne's basis is that they have a flagpole, it looks better with a flag on it.
 


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A TDK D90 cassette that's recorded The Top 40 off Radio One hosted by Bruno Brookes on a Hitachi radio powered by Duracell batteries.

Let's make Britain Great Again.
A TDK D90 cassette that's recorded The Top 40 off Radio One hosted by Tom Browne on a cassette recorder with the budgie chirping in the background.

Let's make Britain Even Greater
 


dsr-burnley

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Just out of interest, if Jeremy Corbyn had said that he was interested in going back to the time befroe Margaret Thatcher had been PM, would there be strings of people on here mocking him and suggesting that everything in the fifties was bad? :)
 


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Just out of interest, if Jeremy Corbyn had said that he was interested in going back to the time befroe Margaret Thatcher had been PM, would there be strings of people on here mocking him and suggesting that everything in the fifties was bad? :)
Pointless question as it's not the sort of thing he would say. And certainly not from the same heart.

He never had a Empirical and lofty idea of what Britain is/was.

As folk have said 'flag shagging' is a very odd pastime. I mean, I'm perfectly happy and indeed rather fortunate to be English. But any desire to wear identity with an encompassing and evangelical zeal is a bit needy and insecure. As cringe as it sounds, I just like to identify with my own humanity before any flag is raised. I'm just a human being who happens to be English, not the other way round.

Nothing wrong with loving your own country (although I love my adopted county more) but all this rubbish we are getting at the moment is some insecure need to be something (again). I'm quite patriotic, except when I'm not. But, nationalistic, no. Patriotism being a love for my own country, nationalism being a loathing desire to be better, or perceive as being better, than others. I have no time for that.

Putting flags up doesn't pay the bills.
 




BadFish

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Oct 19, 2003
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To be honest I'd vote for any party that put the Great British Vol Au Vent back on the Great British Menu.
Hmmmm sounds a bit french to me. Can't see Reform going for it!

Stroganoff, maybe!
 




Anger

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Someone actually asked Farage which decade he would live in if he had the choice. He immediately replied 'the 1950s'. You can see why from his perspective - far fewer non white faces, women in the kitchen [or bedroom] gay people not visibly existing at all. Keith Richards summed up the 50s best 'I thought we won the war ?'
A decade of which he has no personal experience of its merits and de-merits since he was born in the 60s.

Most people who lived in the 1950s will be quick to tell him that it wasn’t that great because, well you know, there was still rationing in place after a major international conflict.
 
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Guinness Boy

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Just out of interest, if Jeremy Corbyn had said that he was interested in going back to the time befroe Margaret Thatcher had been PM, would there be strings of people on here mocking him and suggesting that everything in the fifties was bad? :)
Ah, so it’s the 50s that Reform are aiming for. Or, as I like to think of it, 75 years ago.

Thanks for being the only Reform voter to have a stab at that, although why that’s better than the future I’m not sure, especially given there’ll be no Tik Tok to spread the poisonous message of pseudo facist bolleaux in song form (nor will Reform actually exist).

At least there won’t be any VAR.
 


A mex eyecan

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Ah, so it’s the 50s that Reform are aiming for. Or, as I like to think of it, 75 years ago.

Thanks for being the only Reform voter to have a stab at that, although why that’s better than the future I’m not sure, especially given there’ll be no Tik Tok to spread the poisonous message of pseudo facist bolleaux in song form (nor will Reform actually exist).

At least there won’t be any VAR.
No VAR? well I may vote for that!
 






TomandJerry

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Oct 1, 2013
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"Two (Labour) backbenchers broke ranks to suggest the Prime Minister must be prepared to leave the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR) in order to get a grip on Channel crossings and tackle the threat of Nigel Farage's Reform UK."
 


Papa Lazarou

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Jul 7, 2003
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"Two (Labour) backbenchers broke ranks to suggest the Prime Minister must be prepared to leave the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR) in order to get a grip on Channel crossings and tackle the threat of Nigel Farage's Reform UK."
Idiots.
 






BadFish

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Oct 19, 2003
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Pointless question as it's not the sort of thing he would say. And certainly not from the same heart.

He never had a Empirical and lofty idea of what Britain is/was.

As folk have said 'flag shagging' is a very odd pastime. I mean, I'm perfectly happy and indeed rather fortunate to be English. But any desire to wear identity with an encompassing and evangelical zeal is a bit needy and insecure. As cringe as it sounds, I just like to identify with my own humanity before any flag is raised. I'm just a human being who happens to be English, not the other way round.

Nothing wrong with loving your own country (although I love my adopted county more) but all this rubbish we are getting at the moment is some insecure need to be something (again). I'm quite patriotic, except when I'm not. But, nationalistic, no. Patriotism being a love for my own country, nationalism being a loathing desire to be better, or perceive as being better, than others. I have no time for that.

Putting flags up doesn't pay the bills.
The Aussies love a flag and ranging on about the lucky country and things being unaustralian.

It's all a bit tin pot and cringe as far as I am concerned.
 


Papa Lazarou

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Jul 7, 2003
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Makes you wonder how many behind the scene Labour MP's have the same view
It's ridiculous on every level.

1. How on earth could a Labour MP ever consider leaving the European Court of Human Rights
2. Why is that necessary to deal with immigration?
3. Why are Labour focusing so much on right wing talking points. Surely they know it's a flawed approach to beating Reform?
 


TomandJerry

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Oct 1, 2013
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It's ridiculous on every level.

1. How on earth could a Labour MP ever consider leaving the European Court of Human Rights
2. Why is that necessary to deal with immigration?
3. Why are Labour focusing so much on right wing talking points. Surely they know it's a flawed approach to beating Reform?
1) as said above, they are trying to chase down Reform voters

2) ECHR has stopped deportation flights previously

3) Immigration is a high priority issue
 


Thunder Bolt

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1) as said above, they are trying to chase down Reform voters

2) ECHR has stopped deportation flights previously

3) Immigration is a high priority issue
The judges in the ECHR have stopped deportation for people who won their case. There are 47 judges, one from each member state, and a president
Boris Johnson’s maternal grandfather was a judge in the ECHR for 20 years, 10 of which he was president.

It is nothing to do with the EU, as it was formed before the EU was even formed.
 




El Presidente

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1) as said above, they are trying to chase down Reform voters

2) ECHR has stopped deportation flights previously

3) Immigration is a high priority issue
I’m from a migrant family, feel free to deport me. Sorry for taking your jobs etc
 


TomandJerry

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Oct 1, 2013
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The judges in the ECHR have stopped deportation for people who won their case. There are 47 judges, one from each member state, and a president
Boris Johnson’s maternal grandfather was a judge in the ECHR for 20 years, 10 of which he was president.

It is nothing to do with the EU, as it was formed before the EU was even formed.
But I suppose the issue is that the British courts authorized the deportation originally only to be overturned by the ECHR?
 


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