[News] Nigel Farage and Reform

[Thunder Bolt]

 

[TomandJerry]

Explain how Starmer has betrayed the Brexit voting Labour public. What has been agreed?

This is what is predicted, on Monday:

"The new reset deal is expected to include a UK-EU defence pact, concessions on fish a veterinary deal, European Court of Justice oversight and alignment to EU plant and animal health rules, and concessions on youth mobility."

 

[TomandJerry]

You could set up a google search for "Telegraph Farage Reform" and just post a link to that, rather than having to post links to every single Telegraph article praising Farage and Reform and repeating their lies. Most of which are hidden behind a Paywall for those of us who don't subscribe to the telegraph anyway

I'm just pointing out what he is saying - I find it interesting because it's squeezing the Conservatives into a tight space. I wonder where they will fit in between Labour and Reform policy wise ?

 

[Thunder Bolt]

This is what is predicted, on Monday:

"The new reset deal is expected to include a UK-EU defence pact, concessions on fish a veterinary deal, European Court of Justice oversight and alignment to EU plant and animal health rules, and concessions on youth mobility."

Predicted by a journalist (loosely speaking). Or a fortune teller?

Even Farage said Brexit isn't working so any deal has to be reset. He's just a rabble rouser on the sidelines shouting at everyone. The drunk in the corner of the pub that most people ignore.
Yes, there are people who are voting for his party but give it a couple of years when they see it is all hot air, and those voted in are useless, and then we'll see.

 

[TomandJerry]

I also found this interesting, from the article I've linked previously

With Trade between the UK and EU most wanted and the UK economy being fourth on the list

 

[SouthSaxon]

I also found this interesting, from the article I've linked previously

With Trade between the UK and EU most wanted and the UK economy being fourth on the list
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Can you share a link to this? Curious to see the surrounding context.

 

[TomandJerry]

Can you share a link to this? Curious to see the surrounding context.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/05/16/farage-make-me-pm-and-ill-scrap-starmer-brexit-deal/

 

[A1X]

I suppose things like this and using Brexit as a battering ram will resonant with people

"Farage: Make me PM and I will scrap Starmer's Brexit deal

The new reset deal is expected to include a UK-EU defence pact, concessions on fish a veterinary deal, European Court of Justice oversight and alignment to EU plant and animal health rules, and concessions on youth mobility.

Farage predicted that Sir Keir will be punished at the ballot box for betraying Brexit-voting Labour voters a week after Reform’s triumph in last week’s local elections."

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/05/16/farage-make-me-pm-and-ill-scrap-starmer-brexit-deal/

So he's promising to rip up a deal he hasn't even seen yet?

Weird.

 

[nicko31]

So he's promising to rip up a deal he hasn't even seen yet?

Weird.

He just doesn't want Brexit weakened at all because the more its weakened the more Brexit is exposed a sham.

 

[nicko31]

I also found this interesting, from the article I've linked previously

With Trade between the UK and EU most wanted and the UK economy being fourth on the list
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Disappointing that people care so little about a UK / EU youth mobility scheme. What's not to like?

 

[TomandJerry]

Disappointing that people care so little about a UK / EU youth mobility scheme. What's not to like?

It's seen as an opening of the door towards freedom of movement which was a big Brexit pull

 

[TomandJerry]

Predicted by a journalist (loosely speaking). Or a fortune teller?

Even Farage said Brexit isn't working so any deal has to be reset. He's just a rabble rouser on the sidelines shouting at everyone. The drunk in the corner of the pub that most people ignore.
Yes, there are people who are voting for his party but give it a couple of years when they see it is all hot air, and those voted in are useless, and then we'll see.

Could be Mystic Meg as far as I can tell.

Farage is a slippery one, he got Brexit over the line in the referendum but has avoided any mud sticking because he can play the 'Its not my Brexit' card

 

[nicko31]

It's seen as an opening of the door towards freedom of movement which was a big Brexit pull

Just small mindedness, travel broadens the mind. Numbers would be capped. We have this arrangement with other countries, some far far away

 

[keaton]

We should be more like the UAE? Is he aware that the UAE apparently has the second highest immigration levels, after that Vatican City?

 

[HisBetterBall]

He just doesn't want Brexit weakened at all because the more its weakened the more Brexit is exposed a sham.

How do you know?

 

[Bodian]

You could set up a google search for "Telegraph Farage Reform" and just post a link to that, rather than having to post links to every single Telegraph article praising Farage and Reform and repeating their lies. Most of which are hidden behind a Paywall for those of us who don't subscribe to the telegraph anyway

To be fair to @TomandJerry we have been encouraging them to add the specific link!

But yes - can't read them as I'm not going to subscribe to the Telegraph, but there's always https://archive.ph/

 

[TomandJerry]

Reform doing well in Scotland, coming second in a by election with Labour third

"Reform UK has beaten Labour in a Scottish by-election"



https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/05/16/reform-uk-beats-labour-in-scottish-by-election/

 

[Bodian]

Reform doing well in Scotland

"Reform UK has beaten Labour in a Scottish by-election"



https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/05/16/reform-uk-beats-labour-in-scottish-by-election/

Slightly misleading - Reform came second, they didn't actually win.

Turnout of 25%.

 

[TomandJerry]

Slightly misleading - Reform came second, they didn't actually win.

Turnout of 25%.

I did edit the original post to clarify

 

[TomandJerry]

To be honest I'm rather taken by the Lib Dem manifesto - and I don't believe there's a Lib Dem thread, would it be a good or bad idea to start one?

I'd like the ability to be able to discuss it and pick it apart