[News] Nigel Farage and Reform

[drew]

On reflection, I would hope it's a lot less than half our population. Perhaps I'm just being overly pessimistic and should realise that Reform now only have 4% of the UK's councillors and control 3% of councils in England.

Hopefully, all reform voters turned out to vote whereas not all Labour/Tory voters bothered. Not ideal but gives hope we aren't in as bad a position as Farage hopes!!

 

[The Clamp]

It doesn’t really matter. The world is in an irrecoverable tail spin.

Humans are done.

Who really cares who oversees the end?

If anyone thinks any of the major parties have your backs in the end game, you are very much mistaken.

They’ll be deep in a bunker, on a chez longue, sipping looted champagne and wondering what all that noise is outside. While our faces melt off.

None of it matters.

 

[Bodian]

I speak as a local govt officer for a northern lower tier council (accepting this is only my opinion). His plan to be grow the vote has succeeded exponentially, but I fear many coerced candidates will wake up in the morning fearing wtf have they done. For the hours you need to put in the allowances aren’t that great!

Good luck. I have already contacted a few of my colleagues in neighbouring councils - but not on work email, as they won't be able to respond as they would like. I fear for them.

How do you get a huge paper thin majority?

So you can give me a definition then?

I think I know what @Greenbag50 meant. Labour have a huge commons majority based on quite a small popular vote difference. And so the huge majority could be wiped out with a relatively small swing.

I wonder if people will ever realise that public sector bodies target loads at people from deprived backgrounds to improve diversity. It is not just ethnicity. I wonder if the penny will drop that actually lots of people supporting them will miss out.

“Hang on. You can’t treat old people like that” - actually they can because they don’t have to be diverse anymore.

“NO NO NO. When I hated diversity I was talking about ethnicity not people from different backgrounds and age. We should still get a leg up. Just not them”

Yes - I put some links up earlier. Much of council's funding on things like, for instance, footpaths - is based now on tapping into health & wellbeing projects and funding, as the core funds have dwindled so much. But even before that, we were spending a lot of time and money on making things more accessible to all - so, taking out stiles and surfacing paths so those with limited mobility can use more of them. This has been an important theme for 20+ years now and has made a huge difference. I suspect that these will be defunded, and then the councils will get complaints - because it will impact on a wider sector of society than just ethnicity based differences. And hopefully the public / staff will forward them to the councillors.

Reform literally just took control of Lincolnshire, Durham, Staffordshire, Derbyshire, Nottingham, Lancashire councils plus Runcorn MP

All these places unless I'm confused are northern

You're confused. I live in Cumbria, and no way is Lincolnshire, Derbyshire or Nottingham 'northern'.

 

[Chicken Run]

It doesn’t really matter. The world is in an irrecoverable tail spin.

Humans are done.

Who really cares who oversees the end?

If anyone thinks any of the major parties have your backs in the end game, you are very much mistaken.

They’ll be deep in a bunker, on a chez longue, sipping looted champagne and wondering what all that noise is outside. While our faces melt off.

None of it matters.

Time to get that plough it me thinks TC

 

[The Clamp]

Good luck. I have already contacted a few of my colleagues in neighbouring councils - but not on work email, as they won't be able to respond as they would like. I fear for them.




I think I know what @Greenbag50 meant. Labour have a huge commons majority based on quite a small popular vote difference. And so the huge majority could be wiped out with a relatively small swing.



Yes - I put some links up earlier. Much of council's funding on things like, for instance, footpaths - is based now on tapping into health & wellbeing projects and funding, as the core funds have dwindled so much. But even before that, we were spending a lot of time and money on making things more accessible to all - so, taking out stiles and surfacing paths so those with limited mobility can use more of them. This has been an important theme for 20+ years now and has made a huge difference. I suspect that these will be defunded, and then the councils will get complaints - because it will impact on a wider sector of society than just ethnicity based differences. And hopefully the public / staff will forward them to the councillors.



You're confused. I live in Cumbria, and no way is Lincolnshire, Derbyshire or Nottingham 'northern'.

They are Northern 100%.

 

[chip]

It doesn’t really matter. The world is in an irrecoverable tail spin.

Humans are done.

Who really cares who oversees the end?

If anyone thinks any of the major parties have your backs in the end game, you are very much mistaken.

They’ll be deep in a bunker, on a chez longue, sipping looted champagne and wondering what all that noise is outside. While our faces melt off.

None of it matters.

That's quite nihilistic Mr Clamp, have you been reading Albert Camus?

 

[jimhigham]

Ah, so your on the Corbyn wing of the peoples' party?
No compromise with the electorate?
Good luck with that!

It always astonishes me that so many people have no grasp of the notion that running an entire country is actually a bit complicated.

Far too many people seem to be prepared to believe easy solutions to complex problems. Starmer seems to have adopted a largely utilitarian approach, trying to achieve improved outcomes for the maximum number of people against a backdrop of limited resources. It’s not exciting and it’s not grabbed many headlines to date but it’s precisely what this country needed after 14 years of “throw ‘em to the wolves slash and burn“.

 

[Frutos]

My mother-in-law lives in Derbyshire, where Reform now control the CC, and said that she "voted Labour but is glad that Reform got the Conservatives out".

I have no idea how to understand that train of thought.

 

[TomandJerry]

Sadly it is true, though.

How?

Would it not make deporting people easier? Then having a indirect impact of reducing the boat crossing numbers?

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Old Shoreham Road

Steady. Foredown Drive is not in the north.
I'd accept Fox Way, albeit this does allow too much of Mile Oak into the south for my liking.

 

[Bodian]

Would it not make deporting people easier? Then having a indirect impact of reducing the boat crossing numbers?

It could enable us to actually set up Boris Johnson's wave machine in the channel which would overturn incoming boats - now we wouldn't have to worry about people's rights to life and woke nonsense like that......

 

[Bakero]

They are Northern 100%.

Then why is the airport between Derby and Nottingham named East Midlands rather than Central Northern?

 

[Thunder Bolt]

You're confused. I live in Cumbria, and no way is Lincolnshire, Derbyshire or Nottingham 'northern'.

Derby and Nottingham have a local airport called East Midlands airport.

I rest my case.

Edit beaten to it by Bakero.

 

[The Clamp]

Then why is the airport between Derby and Nottingham named East Midlands rather than Central Northern?

Same reason Shoreham airport is called Brighton City.

Same reason we have London Stansted.

This is all basically “I’m more northern than you”.

As far as northerners are concerned, the further north you go, everything below is the midlands.

 

[A1X]

Would it not make deporting people easier? Then having an indirect impact of reducing the boat crossing numbers?

We already can, and do, deport people

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Would it not make deporting people easier? Then having a indirect impact of reducing the boat crossing numbers?

Deporting people to where?
And the fate of people arriving seems to have no impact on the boat crossing numbers.

The solution is to work with the French to stop them leaving France for here.
Unfortunately re-labelling all asylum seekers as illegal by definition is a problem.
Because unless France labels all people (the same people) attempting to leave France for the UK as 'illegal',
it doesn't matter greatly what we label them as.
And if France were to agree that such people are 'illegal' in France, and should be labelled so, then were I France
I would be helping them into the boats to set sail for Blighty with a cheery wave and a croque monsieur.

The trouble with ALL of this is that the Reform/Tory narrative can have only one outcome.
The final solution will be to sink the boats and let them all drown.
They don't want to say that (well some Reform supporters do).
They want us to reason it out for ourselves.

The angrier we get about these foringe bastards stealing our jobs,
raping our women and running amok with machetes,
the easier it will be for us to vote for the final solution.

The Tories fueled this as a distraction, with no real intention of doing much.
Reform, on the other hand are keen on action. Aparently. We shall see...

 

[pocketseagull]

Absolutely certain their pitch at the next General Election will be to leave ECHR as this means they can establish a Rwanda policy for deportation without processing asylum applications.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Derby and Nottingham have a local airport called East Midlands airport.

I rest my case.

Edit beaten to it by Bakero.

London Stansted
London Luton
London Gatwick

Would not use an airport to back up the argument ha

 

[The Clamp]

A good rule of thumb is anything above the hump of East Anglia is the North.

Or just speak to me. I normally have the answer

 

[TomandJerry]

Absolutely certain their pitch at the next General Election will be to leave ECHR as this means they can establish a Rwanda policy for deportation without processing asylum applications.

They run on the policy to leave the ECHR already.