[News] Nigel Farage and Reform

[PILTDOWN MAN]

Wadhurst station is no where near Wadhurst.
thought I’d mention it

 

[Bodian]

Really? How much extra will that bring in? And what are the projected numbers for additional marriages and children? Any cost in tracing fraud when people marry purely for the tax break but live apart?

If you marry and have two children then get divorced, then get married to a non-brit and have two more children - but then end up living separately for many years, whilst also having a mistress, followed by a long-term relationship with another non-brit - but still being technically married - will you qualify for the allowances?

 

[Bakero]

Wadhurst station is no where near Wadhurst.
thought I’d mention it

Wait till you hear about Leeds castle

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Deporting people to where?
And the fate of people arriving seems to have no impact on the boat crossing numbers.

The solution is to work with the French to stop them leaving France for here.
Unfortunately re-labelling all asylum seekers as illegal by definition is a problem.
Because unless France labels all people (the same people) attempting to leave France for the UK as 'illegal',
it doesn't matter greatly what we label them as.
And if France were to agree that such people are 'illegal' in France, and should be labelled so, then were I France
I would be helping them into the boats to set sail for Blighty with a cheery wave and a croque monsieur.

The trouble with ALL of this is that the Reform/Tory narrative can have only one outcome.
The final solution will be to sink the boats and let them all drown.
They don't want to say that (well some Reform supporters do).
They want us to reason it out for ourselves.

The angrier we get about these foringe bastards stealing our jobs,
raping our women and running amok with machetes,
the easier it will be for us to vote for the final solution.

The Tories fueled this as a distraction, with no real intention of doing much.
Reform, on the other hand are keen on action. Aparently. We shall see...

Who wants to lose their Human Rights?

Rights affect everyone not just those who have coloured skin.

 

[TomandJerry]

I can see the spending here but not the taxing.

With the state of the economy currently, there is simply no money to give takes breaks to married people. It's utterly bonkers unbudgeted nonsense that is typical of right wing populism. Like a child working out how best to spend their pocket money.

Front loading the benefits system implies that they will reduce the income of people who don't have a family with children aged 1-4. When Labour are having to resort to very strict restrictions on disability benefits, just to scrap a bit more cash in, this would surely dump a load more benefit claimants into poverty. More unbudgeted gibberish.

Trying to promote families to have more children isn't a bad idea

 

[GrizzlingGammon]

Farage is for removing workers rights. Leaving the ECHR is just part of that. He'll say it's to stop those brown people in boats; the ones who take our jobs, fill our hotels, and are the reason the bone idle live off the State. At same time stripping workers rights. But certain workers will vote for it.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

If you marry and have two children then get divorced, then get married to a non-brit and have two more children - but then end up living separately for many years, whilst also having a mistress, followed by a long-term relationship with another non-brit - but still being technically married - will you qualify for the allowances?

Ask Farage, it’s almost his biography.

 

[Guinness Boy]

Trying to promote families to have more children isn't a bad idea

Don’t the same people claim that tackling net zero is pointless because of the pollution from parts of the world that are over populated?

 

[Hugo Rune]

Trying to promote families to have more children isn't a bad idea

Yes it is. It's weird authoritarian social engineering. The implication is that you have no value in society if you're not breeding.

There are already tax breaks for married couples, we don't need anymore.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Farage is for removing workers rights. Leaving the ECHR is just part of that. He'll say it's to stop those brown people in boats; the ones who take our jobs, fill our hotels, and are the reason the bone idle live off the State. At same time stripping workers rights. But certain workers will vote for it.

He’s already voted against worker’s rights in the Commons.

 

[A1X]

Trying to promote families to have more children isn't a bad idea

Governments telling people to have more children isn’t a policy which has really ever worked out well in the long term…

 

[Bodian]

Ask Farage, it’s almost his biography.

Indeed. It would be unlike him to introduce something that would not personally benefit him. He'll probably make out that he is eligible for three allowances somehow.

 

[Randy McNob]

l' m sure there' s enough iidiors who'll beleive surrendering their human rights will fix the potholes

Like Americans who beleive 100% price increases on concumer goods willl MAGA

 

[Hugo Rune]

Governments telling people to have more children isn’t a policy which has really ever worked out well in the long term…

A policy that the most evil regime in history more than embraced.

https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/timeline-event/holocaust/1933-1938/creation-of-lebensborn-program

 

[rogersix]

Yes, yes....but which one is it?

It could be you

 

[The Clamp]

Yes it is. It's weird authoritarian social engineering. The implication is that you have no value in society if you're not breeding.

There are already tax breaks for married couples, we don't need anymore.

It is creepy. A tactic employed by totalitarian regimes in order to produce future tax payers and ensure their military stays supplied with cannon fodder.

 

[Deadly Danson]

Trying to promote families to have more children isn't a bad idea

It's an absolutely f***ing terrible idea.

 

[abc]

I meet a bloke when I do my daily exercising in a local park who votes Reform. He has a severely autistic son. I
The only thing they are offering is a promise that they will make sure that certain groups in society will suffer more than they do. These groups will usually be vulnerable, unable to fight for themselves and constantly demonised. It's a great trick if they can pull it off as they don't need to improve anyone's lives except the multi-millionaires who fund them as long as they can distract the rest of us with performative cruelty.

The appalling thing is that the Tories showed and now Labour are showing, a demonisation and total disregard for the most vulnerable people in our society. Both parties use sound bites to sound reasonable but in practice are anything but.

The only difference with Reform is that they are being honest about their potential to be utter scum but haven’t yet had the chance to put it into practice.

 

[abc]

Dropping into this thread just to say that I hope all those Trump-loving Farage supporters that voted Reform yesterday are happy that the UK is heading in the same direction as German and the US.

Tragically they will be, that’s the problem

 

[Hugo Rune]

From the Guardian last year.
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Their voters will of course assume that Reform are the only game in town when it comes to cutting government departments and quangos. But of course, Labour are at it too. You'd need to question what would be left to cut if Reform ever got to power.

Valuation Office Agency to be scrapped in latest quango cull

The agency will be disbanded as a standalone division and the majority will be merged within HM Revenue & Customs by April next year.

www.theargus.co.uk