[News] Nigel Farage and Reform

[Bodian]

Massively manipulated graph there for a 150k fall ? 2% unless I'm mistaken?

It's a bit exaggerated in it's impact - but still, the waiting lists have come down every month after the first. First sustained drop for a long while.

 

[AlbionBro]

Your anecdotal example doesn’t outweigh data evidence, BTW

Just imagine it and multiple up all the tick boxers doctors looking to make the figures look good. No doubt this will eventually come to light. Give this time, it's just fiddling good old Joe public. Proper care with corners being cut will be exposed at some point.
Farage is in touch with the people Starmer isn't the ballot wasn't fixed.

 

[Bodian]

I have not seen this, can you tell me what is improving with the NHS?

More - but this isn't really the thread for this discussion. This thread's about Reform.

NHS England » Over three million additional appointments delivered as NHS exceeds faster diagnosis standard for cancer

The NHS has delivered more than 3.1 million additional appointments since July 2024 and hit the ambitious faster diagnosis standard for cancer, new figures show today. Monthly performance data shows that there were more than 3.1 million additional appointments delivered in the seven months from...

www.england.nhs.uk

NHS App expansion saves 1.5 million appointments

The government’s accelerated rollout of the NHS App has saved 1.5 million appointments and helped cut waiting times for patients.

www.digitalhealth.net

 

[Bodian]

Farage is in touch with the people

Because he likes a pint?

 

[birthofanorange]

Just imagine it and multiple up all the tick boxers doctors looking to make the figures look good. No doubt this will eventually come to light. Give this time, it's just fiddling good old Joe public. Proper care with corners being cut will be exposed at some point.
Farage is in touch with the people Starmer isn't the ballot wasn't fixed.

How many Trump pics do you kneel before each day? Hilarious stuff.

 

[AlbionBro]

More - but this isn't really the thread for this discussion. This thread's about Reform.


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NHS England » Over three million additional appointments delivered as NHS exceeds faster diagnosis standard for cancer

The NHS has delivered more than 3.1 million additional appointments since July 2024 and hit the ambitious faster diagnosis standard for cancer, new figures show today. Monthly performance data shows that there were more than 3.1 million additional appointments delivered in the seven months from...

www.england.nhs.uk

NHS App expansion saves 1.5 million appointments

The government’s accelerated rollout of the NHS App has saved 1.5 million appointments and helped cut waiting times for patients.

www.digitalhealth.net

Yes you're right. Reform smashed Labour today, there is no getting away with it, we need to ask why? My answer is poor leadership from a heartless man Keir Starmer.

 

[AlbionBro]

Because he likes a pint?

That is the simplistic view, he is much more than that. A pint and a double JD. He drank Keir under the table and I can't see him climbing out for sometime, I would leave him there..he may get the hint, he isn't liked and can not be trusted it what he says or does.

 

[Bodian]

Yes you're right. Reform smashed Labour today, there is no getting away with it, we need to ask why? My answer is poor leadership from a heartless man Keir Starmer.

But as pointed out by posters some pages ago, Reform took mainly Tory councils/councillors.

 

[BadFish]

I have missed a few pages but have we heard anything about that the positives or benefits yet or is it like the trump and Brexit threads where people are thrilled with their victory but have no idea why.

 

[birthofanorange]

I have missed a few pages but have we heard anything about that the positives or benefits yet or is it like the trump and Brexit threads where people are thrilled with their victory but have no idea why.

Yep. Nothing to see here.

 

[BadFish]

Yes you're right. Reform smashed Labour today, there is no getting away with it, we need to ask why? My answer is poor leadership from a heartless man Keir Starmer.

We keep asking why, we keep being told that we need to listen to reform voters and hear their reasons for voting for them.

We are asking and we are listening but none of them are saying anything.

If I am honest I have a sneaking suspicion that this is because if they do, they will out themselves as racists and fools.

Of course it could also be that they have no idea why they voted for them and they have just been duped into it with slogans, tweed and drinking a pint in a pub.

 

[BadFish]

Yep. Nothing to see here.

I got told a few pages back that I need to listen to them and find out why they support this band of shysters.

But aside from the crowing, accusations of being out of touch and veiled threats of what is coming, they are not saying much.

 

[GrizzlingGammon]

I have missed a few pages but have we heard anything about that the positives or benefits yet or is it like the trump and Brexit threads where people are thrilled with their victory but have no idea why.

I asked Copilot and Gemini to summerise the last few pages. "reform voters complaining about being called thick. They then post something really thick."

 

[Bodian]

We keep asking why, we keep being told that we need to listen to reform voters and hear their reasons for voting for them.

We are asking and we are listening but none of them are saying anything.

If I am honest I have a sneaking suspicion that this is because if they do, they will out themselves as racists and fools.

Of course it could also be that they have no idea why they voted for them and they have just been duped into it with slogans, tweed and drinking a pint in a pub.

From IPSOS late last year.

 

[birthofanorange]

I got told a few pages back that I need to listen to them and find out why they support this band of shysters.

But aside from the crowing, accusations of being out of touch and veiled threats of what is coming they are not saying much.

Entirely predictable, sadly, and straight from the Trump-light textbook of interviews.
Some seem to have learned nothing since the Brexit debacle.

 

[BadFish]

Reform UK manifesto 2024: 11 key policies analysed

BBC correspondents analyse key policies in the Reform UK manifesto.

www.bbc.com

I found a thing. I haven't read the analysis but some of the policies seem okay.

The next step is to consider if they will actually enact said policies. Are they willing to and capable of running . . . Well anything.

 

[Greenbag50]

2024 election Labour and Starmer one word was ‘change’.
One word. That word gave him a huge paper thin majority to do whatever he wants in next 4 years.
The ‘thick’ electorate voted him in.
The ‘thick’ electorate will vote him out.
Such a sneering and arrogant view of the working class in this country.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Thinking more about the joy when Keir is gone, he isn't Labour.

Ah, so your on the Corbyn wing of the peoples' party?
No compromise with the electorate?
Good luck with that!

 

[birthofanorange]

2024 election Labour and Starmer one word was ‘change’.
One word. That word gave him a huge paper thin majority to do whatever he wants in next 4 years.
The ‘thick’ electorate voted him in.
The ‘thick’ electorate will vote him out.
Such a sneering and arrogant view of the working class in this country.

Would you say that voting Reform comes under the umbrella of 'thick'?

 

[dsr-burnley]

But as pointed out by posters some pages ago, Reform took mainly Tory councils/councillors.

But nationally, every single Reform MP elected yesterday was making the gain from Labour.

Labour lost two thirds of their seats, so did the Tories. An argument that Labour really did better because they lost two thirds of a much lower number, isn't going to be seriously put forward.