[News] Nigel Farage and Reform

[Deportivo Seagull]

No stereotyping in there then, bravo!

Have you been to Lincolnshire ….. i spent time there before the vote and I must say thick as mince and twice as racist. One disappointing thing was the number of ex RAF that were particular unpleasant.

The average age of a reform voter in 2024 was 56, so it looks like getting old turns you into an arse or a fixation on winter fuel allowance and migrants. For the record i’m over 60.

 

[WATFORD zero]

And 27 years ago on this very night, 1st May 1997, I sat in my house in Broadwater, with my kids asleep upstairs, and I thought Tony Blair would change my life and that of my family’s for the better, but did he?

Messrs Townsend and Daltrey possibly called it right in Won’t Get Fooled Again, “Meet the new boss, same as the old boss”

I'd never noticed the numerous similarities between the last two election winners, Johnson and Starmer before you pointed them out Len

I wonder which party's voters in these various local and national elections will suffer the most from the election of Reform candidates. "Toute nation a le gouvernement qu'elle mérite."

 

[Peteinblack]

someone who is perceived as overly sensitive, easily offended, or focused on political correctness.

There is no-one more overly sensitive or easily offended than your average Reform voter and Farage worshipper - they thrive on grievances, and being offended by what they've read in the Daily Express or heard on GBNews.

 

[Jackthelad]

I’m not totally clued up on Lib Dem’s these days but why don’t them and the Green Party join up both are liberal, what’s the reason they don’t?

 

[Is it PotG?]

I’m not totally clued up on Lib Dem’s these days but why don’t them and the Green Party join up both are liberal, what’s the reason they don’t?

I'd venture that the Greens are a tad left of the Lib Dems.

 

[Cordwainer]

Have you been to Lincolnshire? I have spent quite a lot of time in the county as I have family who farm there. It is a strange county.

Prior to the drains and flood defences being put in, the whole area used to flood and be cut off for some time annually, and this in turn allegedly led to very close family ties there?

 

[Thunder Bolt]

I’m not totally clued up on Lib Dem’s these days but why don’t them and the Green Party join up both are liberal, what’s the reason they don’t?

The Greens are further left than any party, including what Labour used to be.

The LibDems and Green Party do have rejoining the EU in common.

 

[AK74]

Prior to the drains and flood defences being put in, the whole area used to flood and be cut off for some time annually, and this in turn allegedly led to very close family ties there?

Where else, but Lincolnshire:

Source (sauce): https://thelincolnite.co.uk/2023/04...ield, and Tongue,jokes might just be annoying.

 

[Lenny Rider]

When you get past Iraq (which many can't), there was plenty that was better under Labour than the Tories

1. Longest period of sustained low inflation since the 60s.
2. Low mortgage rates.
3. Introduced the National Minimum Wage and raised it to £5.52.
4. Over 14,000 more police in England and Wales.
5. Cut overall crime by 32 per cent.
6. Record levels of literacy and numeracy in schools.
7. Young people achieving some of the best ever results at 14, 16, and 18.
8. Funding for every pupil in England has doubled.
9. Employment is at its highest level ever.
10. Written off up to 100 per cent of debt owed by poorest countries.
11. 85,000 more nurses.
12. 32,000 more doctors.
13. Brought back matrons to hospital wards.
14. Devolved power to the Scottish Parliament.
15. Devolved power to the Welsh Assembly.
16. Dads now get paternity leave of 2 weeks for the first time.
17. NHS Direct offering free convenient patient advice.
18. Gift aid was worth £828 million to charities last year.
19. Restored city-wide government to London.
20. Record number of students in higher education.
21. Child benefit up 26 per cent since 1997.
22. Delivered 2,200 Sure Start Children’s Centres.
23. Introduced the Equality and Human Rights Commission.
24. £200 winter fuel payment to pensioners & up to £300 for over-80s.
25. On course to exceed our Kyoto target for reducing greenhouse gas emissions.
26. Restored devolved government to Northern Ireland.
27. Over 36,000 more teachers in England and 274,000 more support staff and teaching assistants.
28. All full time workers now have a right to 24 days paid holiday.
29. A million pensioners lifted out of poverty.
30. 600,000 children lifted out of relative poverty.
31. Introduced child tax credit giving more money to parents.
32. Scrapped Section 28 and introduced Civil Partnerships.
33. Brought over 1 million social homes up to standard.
34. Inpatient waiting lists down by over half a million since 1997.
35. Banned fox hunting.
36. Cleanest rivers, beaches, drinking water and air since before the industrial revolution.
37. Free TV licences for over-75s.
38. Banned fur farming and the testing of cosmetics on animals.
39. Free breast cancer screening for all women aged between 50-70.
40. Free off peak local bus travel for over-60s.
41. New Deal – helped over 1.8 million people into work.
42. Over 3 million child trust funds have been started.
43. Free eye test for over 60s.
44. More than doubled the number of apprenticeships.
45. Free entry to national museums and galleries.
46. Overseas aid budget more than doubled.
47. Heart disease deaths down by 150,000 and cancer deaths down by 50,000.
48. Cut long-term youth unemployment by 75 per cent.
49. Free nursery places for every three and four-year-olds.
50. Free fruit for most four to six-year-olds at school.

Taken from the Labour website.

Isn't this a John Cleese scene from Life Of Brian?

 

[TomandJerry]

"Reform UK have, so far, been winning about 39% of the vote, which puts them 11 points ahead of the Conservatives. They have also won 79 seats - more than any other party.

In those same elections, the Conservatives have been trying to defend 99 seats and have only succeeded in defending 37 of them."

 

[jcdenton08]

Win at Runcorn by 6 votes after a recount. Labour losing the seat to Reform.

In no small part down to the fact that Labour got elected and immediately attacked old people, disabled people, and poor people.

And were arrogant enough to think it wouldn’t harm them.

Spot on in my view. They’ve been punished and will continue to be by older voters. I said this at the time and was slapped down, but old people have long memories and their first actions when in government were very strange then, and are very strange now.

WFA cut was a big, big tactical error.

 

[WATFORD zero]

Isn't this a John Cleese scene from Life Of Brian?

The one where some fool moans 'what have the romans ever done for us' and is then answered with a huge list of factually correct answers, proving the idiocy of the question.

Is that the one you're thinking of

 

[abc]

I genuinely think a few people on here should watch or listen to how the Nazis came to power. How they promised the world and demonised a certain population. It is mad how similar it all is. The rest is historyp podcasts are very good on it. The slow drip drip moving what’s acceptable etc. suddenly you get to the end and people realise Hitler was never anything else. I would suggest looking back at young Nigel to see what he stood for and people might well say the same!

Well worth saying as the world seems to be embracing extremism.

There was never any doubt who Hitler was, he wrote mein kampf a long time before he got near power. But too many people chose to ignore what was clear and obvious.
I’m no fan of Farage but I think your analysis is more relevant to Putin, Corbyn and Trump.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

someone who is perceived as overly sensitive, easily offended, or focused on political correctness.

I have genuinely never come across anyone who ticks all three boxes.
I have certainly not seen this from any mainstream politicians.
I suspect, therefore, that this is what you think it means.

What I think it means is anyone who disagrees with:
Throwing immigrants into the sea, or housing them in metaphorical tents
Reducing income tax
Cutting benefits for scroungers (the unemployed, single mothers and suchlike)
Privatising the NHS
Selling the BBC

(Does Reform have any other policies?)

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Well worth saying as the world seems to be embracing extremism.

There was never any doubt who Hitler was, he wrote mein kampf a long time before he got near power. But too many people chose to ignore what was clear and obvious.
I’m no fan of Farage but I think your analysis is more relevant to Putin, Corbyn and Trump.

This being the same person who said Putin is the one leader in the world he most admires, and the television station he appeared on was closed down for propaganda? The one who is constantly flitting across the Atlantic to see Trump?
I suspect Farage is a lot closer than you think.

 

[Berty23]

Well worth saying as the world seems to be embracing extremism.

There was never any doubt who Hitler was, he wrote mein kampf a long time before he got near power. But too many people chose to ignore what was clear and obvious.
I’m no fan of Farage but I think your analysis is more relevant to Putin, Corbyn and Trump.

Farage’s teachers raised worries about him while he was at school about his fascist views. He was proud of it when younger. What part of his behaviour recently makes you think he is no longer a racist?

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Spot on in my view. They’ve been punished and will continue to be by older voters. I said this at the time and was slapped down, but old people have long memories and their first actions when in government were very strange then, and are very strange now.

WFA cut was a big, big tactical error.

It has been made to look so by the media, although I can see why. It hasn't been stopped, but given to the most needy.
The WFA was worth £3.37 a week. My state pension rise at the beginning of April was £7.20 a week.
A more friendly media would reflect this, but apart from the Mirror and Guardian, the press have made a meal of it.

 

[BadFish]

It has been made to look so by the media, although I can see why. It hasn't been stopped, but given to the most needy.
The WFA was worth £3.37 a week. My state pension rise at the beginning of April was £7.20 a week.
A more friendly media would reflect this, but apart from the Mirro and Guardian, the press have made a meal of it.

Wait the state pension went up? Was that for everyone?

I admit to not having read widely on this, but it is the first time I have seen I mentioned

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Dame Andrea Jenkyns (the FINGER) has already been throwing a strop after her acceptance speech.

Reform mayor Andrea Jenkyns storms out of Sky News interview after spiky speech

New Reform mayor Dame Andrea Jenkyns stormed out of a Sky News interview after being challenged over her decision to refer to a rival's accent in a spiky acceptance speech

www.mirror.co.uk

Has it been established yet, as to the exact timing she paid her deposit, for the property in Lincolnshire?

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Wait the state pension went up? Was that for everyone?

I admit to not having read widely on this, but it is the first time I have seen I mentioned

Yes the first week in April, thanks to the Triple Lock. If you get yours monthly, you won't have seen it yet, but I chose to receive mine monthly when I started getting it.