[News] Nigel Farage and Reform

[The Clamp]

Worse than Reform? The Putin-backing, NHS-hating, borderline racist party of dimwits and knuckle dragged? And you think the current Labour government are worse than them?

Ok.

No. Fair point. Typed without proper thought. I retract that.

 

[A1X]

Labour had a 14,000 majority and people on here are trying to call it a good result, wow!
Farage said he was going to take the UK out of the EU and he did. He then said he was going to turn his guns on to 2 tier Kier. It's about time you all (woke) woke up and smelt the roses.

Have a lovely day

Who can forget the day Nigel Farage stood on the steps of Downing Street and called the referendum. Or led the official campaign. Or negotiated the withdrawal agreement. Or introduced the legislation.

Oh wait, he did none of those things. Because he’s a perennial man sniping from the sidelines waiting for people with actual power to do things for him.

 

[57gary]

It's a Beautiful Day!

 

[Gwylan]

I have to say that I'm a bit bemused by these political commentators talking about the end of the two-party system. I'm old enough to remember the SDP winning a series of by-elections with some massive swings amidst a lot of talk of the end of two-party politics - within five years the party was no more, subsumed into the Liberal party.

And that was a party led by serious, experienced hard-working politicians, who had been at the highest-levels of government, not one led by probably the laziest MP in then House, whose grip is such that he couldn't even maintain a party of five MPs without a split.

I'd certainly not put any money on a Reform win at the next GE.

 

[BadFish]

It's a Beautiful Day!

An Insightful political summary of the day's events.

By Reform standards

 

[Thunder Bolt]

An Insightful political summary of the day's events.

By Reform standards

I thought he was referring to his belief that the sunshine was from Farage’s orifice.

 

[peterward]

Worse than Reform? The Putin-backing, NHS-hating, borderline racist party of dimwits and knuckle dragged? And you think the current Labour government are worse than them?

Ok.

The weirdest part is that Reform voters like MAGA voters are often poorer and or politically illiterate.

It's the Turkeys voting for Christmas party.

They will enact tax cuts for billionaires, slash benefits many of them rely on etc etc and be even more extreme in benefitting the super wealthy at expense of poor than the Cons.

And all because it appealed to their sense of white Britishness, that Farage doesn't like brown people in dinghys, so therefore he's got my vote.

 

[Is it PotG?]

The weirdest part is that Reform voters like MAGA voters are often poorer and or politically illiterate.

It's the Turkeys voting for Christmas party.

They will enact tax cuts for billionaires, slash benefits many of them rely on etc etc and be even more extreme in benefitting the super wealthy at expense of poor than the Cons.

And all because it appealed to their sense of white Britishness, that Farage doesn't like brown people in dinghys, so therefore he's got my vote.

No stereotyping in there then, bravo!

 

[Eeyore]

It's a Beautiful Day!

Hello 7 post, 57Gary. Which other NSC poster were you/are you ?

 

[drew]

Haven’t we been here before?

As a kid I can remember the Libs winning Edgehill in Liverpool, then one of the safest Labour seats in the country, and didn’t Roy Jenkins did something similar in Crosby for the SDP?

And 27 years ago on this very night, 1st May 1997, I sat in my house in Broadwater, with my kids asleep upstairs, and I thought Tony Blair would change my life and that of my family’s for the better, but did he?

Messrs Townsend and Daltrey possibly called it right in Won’t Get Fooled Again, “Meet the new boss, same as the old boss”

When you get past Iraq (which many can't), there was plenty that was better under Labour than the Tories

1. Longest period of sustained low inflation since the 60s.
2. Low mortgage rates.
3. Introduced the National Minimum Wage and raised it to £5.52.
4. Over 14,000 more police in England and Wales.
5. Cut overall crime by 32 per cent.
6. Record levels of literacy and numeracy in schools.
7. Young people achieving some of the best ever results at 14, 16, and 18.
8. Funding for every pupil in England has doubled.
9. Employment is at its highest level ever.
10. Written off up to 100 per cent of debt owed by poorest countries.
11. 85,000 more nurses.
12. 32,000 more doctors.
13. Brought back matrons to hospital wards.
14. Devolved power to the Scottish Parliament.
15. Devolved power to the Welsh Assembly.
16. Dads now get paternity leave of 2 weeks for the first time.
17. NHS Direct offering free convenient patient advice.
18. Gift aid was worth £828 million to charities last year.
19. Restored city-wide government to London.
20. Record number of students in higher education.
21. Child benefit up 26 per cent since 1997.
22. Delivered 2,200 Sure Start Children’s Centres.
23. Introduced the Equality and Human Rights Commission.
24. £200 winter fuel payment to pensioners & up to £300 for over-80s.
25. On course to exceed our Kyoto target for reducing greenhouse gas emissions.
26. Restored devolved government to Northern Ireland.
27. Over 36,000 more teachers in England and 274,000 more support staff and teaching assistants.
28. All full time workers now have a right to 24 days paid holiday.
29. A million pensioners lifted out of poverty.
30. 600,000 children lifted out of relative poverty.
31. Introduced child tax credit giving more money to parents.
32. Scrapped Section 28 and introduced Civil Partnerships.
33. Brought over 1 million social homes up to standard.
34. Inpatient waiting lists down by over half a million since 1997.
35. Banned fox hunting.
36. Cleanest rivers, beaches, drinking water and air since before the industrial revolution.
37. Free TV licences for over-75s.
38. Banned fur farming and the testing of cosmetics on animals.
39. Free breast cancer screening for all women aged between 50-70.
40. Free off peak local bus travel for over-60s.
41. New Deal – helped over 1.8 million people into work.
42. Over 3 million child trust funds have been started.
43. Free eye test for over 60s.
44. More than doubled the number of apprenticeships.
45. Free entry to national museums and galleries.
46. Overseas aid budget more than doubled.
47. Heart disease deaths down by 150,000 and cancer deaths down by 50,000.
48. Cut long-term youth unemployment by 75 per cent.
49. Free nursery places for every three and four-year-olds.
50. Free fruit for most four to six-year-olds at school.

Taken from the Labour website.

 

[drew]

You would have thought that, having been duped once by Farage and co, the farming and fishing communities of Lincolnshire wouldn't be duped again!

 

[ditchy]

What does 'woke' mean ?

someone who is perceived as overly sensitive, easily offended, or focused on political correctness.

 

[Hotchilidog]

The weirdest part is that Reform voters like MAGA voters are often poorer and or politically illiterate.

It's the Turkeys voting for Christmas party.

They will enact tax cuts for billionaires, slash benefits many of them rely on etc etc and be even more extreme in benefitting the super wealthy at expense of poor than the Cons.

And all because it appealed to their sense of white Britishness, that Farage doesn't like brown people in dinghys, so therefore he's got my vote.

The other thing is that Labour have not taken the fight to Reform and challenged them on what passes for their policies. In fact they have done the opposite and basically accepted Reform's premise that small boats and immigration are the main causes of our ills, when of course that simply is not true.

Labour under Starmer has been a joke, immigrants, pensioners, the disabled, trans people, benefit claimants all thrown under the bus. The environment set to follow. Brexit has been allowed to continue to be a burden to this country with their head permanently stuck in the sand.

Meanwhile energy and water bills continue to soar as shareholders and profits are protected at the expense of the public, employers get lumbered with a ridiculous NI tax rise stifling the possibility for decent pay rises for people that actually do the bloody work in this country. labour continues to schmooze it's hedge fund, venture capital and banking pals in the city whilst times get tighter for everyone us. F**k em....and I've not even mentioned their disgusting stance on Gaza, and Streeting's desire to sell off the NHS.

Labour has been cozying up to the racist vote since 2019 and failed to win them over, all the while telling anyone with an ounce of empathy or progressive values to effectively off. These results lay bare the folly of their strategy and they will learn nothing from it as no doubt they will be banging on about increasing deportations and ignoring the real problems that affect us.

 

[AK74]

Labour had a 14,000 majority and people on here are trying to call it a good result, wow!
Farage said he was going to take the UK out of the EU and he did. He then said he was going to turn his guns on to 2 tier Kier. It's about time you all (woke) woke up and smelt the roses.

Have a lovely day

Three highly animated characters, who all exist for entertainment purposes and shouldn't be taken too seriously:

 

[Berty23]

You would have thought that, having been duped once by Farage and co, the farming and fishing communities of Lincolnshire wouldn't be duped again!

Have you been to Lincolnshire? I have spent quite a lot of time in the county as I have family who farm there. It is a strange county.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

And also, the Tory vote was down.

Opposition parties normally do very well in by elections. Despite firing up the culture wars, Badenoch is slowly driving her party into third place nationally.

She's going to be gone soon enough

Jenrick in next and a pact with reform in the next 18 months I'm guessing

 

[TomandJerry]

Reform looking like they will win Lincolnshire and Staffordshire council's

 

[5Ways Gull]

Three highly animated characters, who all exist for entertainment purposes and shouldn't be taken too seriously:
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If you look on the BBC reporting online this morning they seem to have a nice selection of pics with Farage gurning and looking ridiculous. It's what I pay my licence fee for!

 

[Deportivo Seagull]

I’m still waiting for the Farage ‘bollock drop’, we had a partial one when he aligned himself to that shyster Rupert Lowe, who promptly got elected, but that hasn’t ended well.

Part of me still thinks he’s almost like an establishment court jester, there to amuse and entertain, but once he’s served his purpose they, ie those men in grey suits John Major referred to, will engineer a situation and he will get dropped like a stone.

A former local Tory MP told me there’s all kinds of alleged shenigans with his MEP expenses in Brussels going back years, could they be keeping their powder dry on that?

When labour got in they made a point of saying they would go after Reform. So far we have the Nathan Gill former leader of Reform UK in Wales being charged for taking Russian bribes to spout Russian propaganda in the EU parliament whilst a MEP. If he was doing it then you can bet that others of his ilk were as well. If you wanted to make a case against reform you turn over Gill and then use his evidence on the rest. Whilst Farage has been giving it two tier Starmer he has actually been very quiet, much more quiet than he normally is. It shouldn’t be forgotten that he used to be on the Russian equivalent of the BBC, which is basically Putin’s mouth piece, so it’s not a big leap to wonder where all his funding came from.
what odds that he chucks in his MP role and heads to the US, he’s hardly going to be extradited if any charges are made.

 

[chickens]

I don’t think Nigel Farage has been seen in his constituency since winning his seat. Assuming that his acolytes are similarly hardworking, it’s not a mistake that the voters of Runcorn will repeat.

It is a beautiful day, and I don’t have enough exposure to the people of Runcorn to allow their poor voting choices to take the edge off it. I’m amazed anyone is still allowing themselves to be mugged by Farage’s mob, they’re run by the very people who are keeping their voters poor.

I’m quietly confident that Runcorn will not vote Reform at the next local elections, but you can’t protect people from themselves. Runcorn is f***ing around, they’ll spend the next few years finding out. I will watch with amusement.