356 Conservative MPs for them to choose from, and they're considering the bloke who was kicked out in disgrace about 3months ago, is under investigation for misleading parliament and has been on holiday for the duration of the current crisis.
Genuine question as (I mentioned earlier in the thread) I'm fascinated by anyone that says they are a supporter of a political party for this exact reason.
Hi Mejona,
My grandmother would always describe herself as a lifelong Labour supporter.
What did she do? Abstain, or vote for someone else?
They are not my Tories Harry, I won't be voting for them in the next election nor did I vote for Brexit. I don't need to justify anything, but I despised Blair in his later years and frankly still can't stand the man.That's a nasty, peevish and mendacious post.
Your tories voted for the war in Iraq, and the largest number opposing (or abstaining) were labour.
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If you read about the 'dodgy dossier' it was never stated that Blair 'lied'. This is the spin that his opponents, primarily disgruntled members of labour's hard left, the peevish SWP, and the sorts who are always calling for boycotting Israel used. It does not behove a conservative like you to repeat such tripe, and by and large mainstream tories don't do so and never did.
The dossier was not the justification for the war. The repeated disregard of the UN and the efforts of Blix justified considering an invasion.
Kelly killed himself after he was missquoted and misslead by two journalists, Watts and Gilligan which made him think he'd let the country down, with the coup de grace being the defenestration by Lib Dem MP Andrew McKinlay (an opportunist opponent of all war, any war, as per liberal policy, the clowns):
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After the hearing Kelly described MacKinlay to his daughter as an "utter bastard"."
(plus Kelly had other issues too; a noble but frail man).
Those who blame Blair for Kelly's death are fools or knaves.
Don't you imagine that if there was genuine scope for doing down Blair and damaging Labour by picking at the Iraq war and the dossier, the tories wouldn't still be at it? FFS!
Iraq Dossier - Wikipedia
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Everyone knows that had the tories been in charge the outcome would have been the same - a war but with no exit strategy.
The tories learned from backing Blair and Blix with no exit strategy, by backing Brexit with no strategy
You stick with your tories if it makes you feel happier, but if you need to justify this by claiming Blair was as bigger liar as Johnson, frankly, I feel a bit sorry for you
In a few months he can use that exact sentence again after Boris takes over again, gets convicted of misleading the house, has a bunch of ministerial resignations and triggers yet another leadership election, which will be conducted between Mordaunt, Truss (actually, she may have been useless but at least she wasn't corrupt!) and Sunak. And Sunak will still be too Asian to win the members' vote.
You got it. I just cannot see the Tory membership voting for Sunak.
I regard it as nailed on that Liz Truss will be given a job in Boris's new cabinet. They could be a tag team. Truss out, Boris in. Boris out, Truss in.
I agree with all that, except your last sentence! We have to make the best fist of living in our time - don't let the bastards grind us down.
And Boris gets his second PM pension for life
Yes to all that, but need to add that if one candidate gets over 100 nominations in the first round, and the others don't, then that candidate is our new PM.
