[Albion] Matt O Riley [26/08/24 - sings on a 5-year deal]

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JBizzle

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O'Riley is frustrated at not playing number 8.

Not as frustrated as I am watching him.

How many players in the modern era don't have the flexibility to play various roles in centre mid.

He had a run of games at the end of the season and eventually ended up being used as a sub.
Are you frustrated that Mitoma can only play left wing? Or JP as a CB? No, because they're playing well in their preferred position. If Mitoma was playing out of position (like JP did for that one woeful exclusion at CDM) we'd cut him some slack, why not O'Riley?
 




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Are you frustrated that Mitoma can only play left wing? Or JP as a CB? No, because they're playing well in their preferred position. If Mitoma was playing out of position (like JP did for that one woeful exclusion at CDM) we'd cut him some slack, why not O'Riley?

Because he went public?
 


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I wasn’t talking about comments you made but the fact you chose to prolong a discussion that had run its course because you wanted to pursue an argument the thread had moved on from. You jumped on my last post too before I had a chance to read it through and edit it.

I‘m not biting and have nothing further to say to you tbh.

Have a good evening. Enjoy a nice glass of wine. I will.
”Pursue an argument”, “jumped on my last post” “not biting”, “nothing to say to you”

Wtf?

I asked you one simple question about why you view two goals so differently. It seemed odd to me, so I challenged it. There’s no agenda and there really isn’t any need to reply like this.

Enjoy your wine.
 


macbeth

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The way Matt puts it is totally fair enough.

But Hurzeler show no sign that he thinks O'Riley can outcompete one of, let alone all of, Gomez, Hinsh or Ayari (who play the closest to a no 8 position) for that spot.

I think we'll get a bid for something close to what we bought him for and we'll sell
Begs the question as to why he was signed in the first place when there’s such a stylistic divergence between him and the manager. All very well giving the head coach a very limited say in transfer policy but there’s absolutely zero point in signing players the manager doesn’t need/want
 


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Are you frustrated that Mitoma can only play left wing? Or JP as a CB? No, because they're playing well in their preferred position. If Mitoma was playing out of position (like JP did for that one woeful exclusion at CDM) we'd cut him some slack, why not O'Riley?
To be honest agree with @Terry Butcher Tribute Act on this.

Just get on and do your job, he should have the ability to play multiple positions, especially around midfield. I’ve not heard Wieffer moaning or to be fair, highlighting his preferences….

As per my earlier post, next season is a big one for MOR.

Goes without saying good luck to him….
 




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Begs the question as to why he was signed in the first place when there’s such a stylistic divergence between him and the manager. All very well giving the head coach a very limited say in transfer policy but there’s absolutely zero point in signing players the manager doesn’t need/want

Perhaps he was signed as back up to Rutter and generally in 10 / ACM roles, as he performed at Celtic, with FH’s backing.
 




Terry Butcher Tribute Act

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Are you frustrated that Mitoma can only play left wing? Or JP as a CB? No, because they're playing well in their preferred position. If Mitoma was playing out of position (like JP did for that one woeful exclusion at CDM) we'd cut him some slack, why not O'Riley?
It's 2025, it's not Ferguson's Man United in a 4 4 2 in the 90s.

Central midfielders can't expect not to have to be flexible in this day and age.

JP can play in a 3 or a 2 btw, and Mitoma can play behind a striker or has even played up front. But that's not really the point.
 






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Good call, and could well be the case.
More good squad depth

As well as the injury, perhaps MOR’s been ‘unlucky’ with the progress of Gruda, Ayari and then Gomez looking the part.

With Rutter and Buonanotte too, easy to see why someone might want to move on.
 








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If he was unhappy where he was playing? Yes, it’s not ideal
I'm pretty sure that (for example) James Milner never wanted to play at full back even when he was at Liverpool. But if it works for the club and it means the player's actually playing then everybody should just get on with it.
 


Zeberdi

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”Pursue an argument”, “jumped on my last post” “not biting”, “nothing to say to you”

Wtf?

I asked you one simple question about why you view two goals so differently. It seemed odd to me, so I challenged it. There’s no agenda and there really isn’t any need to reply like this.

Enjoy your wine.
This has been discussed ad finitum as was the point you were going on about the other night after I expressed a pov about something but you wouldn’t let go. I am seriously not interested in having prolonged, nitpicking debates with you on NSC but you seem oblivious to the hints I keep dropping. I expressed a POV and fine if people disagree but I am intitled to express an opinion without constantly having to justify it. 3 pages ago it was obvious you disagreed with me on the ‘brilliance’ /‘stonkiness’ of the penalty because you liked’ several posts disagreeing with me over it so I didn’t see the point of getting into it with you - the ‘lucky’ comment was deleted almost immediately because I knew you’d jump on it - alas you jumped quicker than I can write.


My wine is lovely.

Cheers.
 






Herr Tubthumper

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This has been discussed ad finitum as was the point you were going on about the other night after I expressed a pov about something but you wouldn’t let go. I am seriously not interested in having prolonged, nitpicking debates with you on NSC but you seem oblivious to the hints I keep dropping. I expressed a POV and fine if people disagree but I am intitled to express an opinion without constantly having to justify it. 3 pages ago it was obvious you disagreed with me on the ‘brilliance’ /‘stonkiness’ of the penalty because you liked’ several posts disagreeing with me over it so I didn’t see the point of getting into it with you - the ‘lucky’ comment was deleted almost immediately because I knew you’d jump on it - alas you jumped quicker than I can write.


My wine is lovely.

Cheers.
Stop it. Please.
 


Zeberdi

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I'm pretty sure that (for example) James Milner never wanted to play at full back even when he was at Liverpool. But if it works for the club and it means the player's actually playing then everybody should just get on with it.
Milner is a consummate professional isn’t he!

It’s tougher for newbies to the Club - Buonanotte had to ‘get on with it for nearly half a season of being played as a RW when he had always said at Rosario, he was a CAM/10 but March’s longterm injury meant RDZ played him out of position in his debut season too.

It’s tough on players doing that in their first season when they are still breaking into the first team - they want to showcase their best work on the pitch in order to make progress/compete and impress the coach but feel they can’t do that if they are playing out of position so I have some sympathy with them.

That said, Matt is 24 not 19 - he should be at the peak of his career and be more professional - telling the media that he is unhappy where Hurzeler is playing him is self-justifying himself for falling short of what he needs to be doing and no one wants to hear that do they?
 


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macbeth

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I'm pretty sure that (for example) James Milner never wanted to play at full back even when he was at Liverpool. But if it works for the club and it means the player's actually playing then everybody should just get on with it.
You’re comparing a player who was well past his prime as a winger, signed on a free transfer, is the physical embodiment of professionalism, and was being asked to fill in at a position Liverpool were desperately short in, with a much younger player, approaching his prime, signed for rather a lot of money, who’s come here as the next, bigger step in his career. Complete apples and oranges scenario.
 


amexer

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On reflection with Baleba first on team sheet it does seem strange we spent so much money on so many players who would consider best position is next to Baleba Both Oriley and Weiffer were outstanding for previous clubs
 


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