I love Weiffer, but comparing him as a right back to Dumfries is insulting to Dumfries! He’s levels above
[Albion] Mats Wieffer SINGS on 5 year contract
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pigmanovich
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I agree - what I was getting at is Mats might object more than Jack has to being deployed at RB given he has a Netherlands team place to keep.
The Fits
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- Jun 29, 2020
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Dumfries is a wing back. He is rubbish defensively. He excels at Inter because they have three insanely good and tough CBs.
Oh, in which case I misunderstood your post and you have a point!
aolstudios
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London Irish
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If Baleba stays, no chance
aolstudios
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Next to Baleba
Change at Barnham
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Mats has the physicality that Fab has said we are lacking and need to increase.
Before the Liverpool game Fab also alluded to the fact that Mats has done very well at right back and could be played there in the future.
I'm sure Weiffer would prefer to be in midfield but I can see him playing a hybrid right back/midfield role depending on whether we are in possession or not.
A very decent player who could easily turn into a "why did we let him go" type player if not managed correctly.
Before the Liverpool game Fab also alluded to the fact that Mats has done very well at right back and could be played there in the future.
I'm sure Weiffer would prefer to be in midfield but I can see him playing a hybrid right back/midfield role depending on whether we are in possession or not.
A very decent player who could easily turn into a "why did we let him go" type player if not managed correctly.
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If we keep all our midfielders, they’ll all get game time due to injuries and squad rotation depending on the opposition, which I think FH may be a fan of. Clever use of subs also opens up around 20 mins game time for them as well. A deep squad is imperative at the sharp end of the PL, even without Europe.
Going to be a mainstay next season. Love to see him in midfield with Baleba.
Nobby Cybergoat
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Mats and Hurzeler need to have a proper conversation about this. Is he going to be a right back, or fight for one of those midfield places.
My current guess is that he will permanently change positions at try to forge a career at right back. There's just going to be too much competition at centre mid. Mats has undoubted qualities, but is never going to turn like Baleba or pick a lock like Ayari.
But he has some of the qualities of a good full back. First, and the most important role of a full back is that he is hard to get around. Those go gadget legs come out and he can make the tackle. Second he has deceptive pace, probably not super quick off the mark, but can offer cover in a foot race. To his huge credit he hasn't been done by a winger so far. Interesting to see how he gets on against Son at the weekend, playing Chiesa was an easier evening than it might have been
My current guess is that he will permanently change positions at try to forge a career at right back. There's just going to be too much competition at centre mid. Mats has undoubted qualities, but is never going to turn like Baleba or pick a lock like Ayari.
But he has some of the qualities of a good full back. First, and the most important role of a full back is that he is hard to get around. Those go gadget legs come out and he can make the tackle. Second he has deceptive pace, probably not super quick off the mark, but can offer cover in a foot race. To his huge credit he hasn't been done by a winger so far. Interesting to see how he gets on against Son at the weekend, playing Chiesa was an easier evening than it might have been
Nobby Cybergoat
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That would certainly offer a strong screen in front of the back 4. I just wonder, do we want someone in that position who more instinctively gets up there? Look at the way Hinsh and Ayari drove forward and got their goals yesterday.
The Weiffer and Baleba together idea seems a little cautious to me. And I think FH is likely to pick one or the other
Home and Away
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It would be interesting to hear a professional analysis for his performances as a right back. I think some decision making is questionable at times, but he does look like solid defending, tackling and passing.
If you look at the other side you don't need a professional analysis to assess our left back for decision making
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pigmanovich
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I’ve been team Mats since before his recent uptick in form but had Salah scored that sitter it would have resulted from Gakpo getting the better of Mats.
Nobby Cybergoat
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OK, maybe once or twice by very good players. But no full back will win every contest. He's been consistently competitive against top PL wingers is probably the way I would rephrase it
aolstudios
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I think he 'gets away with it' as Hinsh did, just better. He's beastly strong & a very good footballer. Mats is a great backup but I'd rather see him in midfield
aolstudios
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The difference is a top level specialist RB has far less contests as their anticipation & positioning is better
pigmanovich
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Very fair - still have my doubts as to whether Mats is open to a permanent move to RBbut he’s definitely making a strong case for regular minutes.