Malaysian airline crash

[clippedgull]

Shot down? Or bomb? Or a malfunction? Lot's of wild speculation currently.

 

[SeagullinExile]

Footage posted on Live Leaks -

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=9fe_1405610909

 

[TomandJerry]

According to Reuters, there are dozens of bodies scattered around the wreckage of the jet. The agency quotes an emergencies services rescue worker as saying at least 100 bodies had so far been found at the scene, and that debris from the wreckage was scattered across an area up to about 15 km (nine miles) in diameter.

 

[TomandJerry]

#BREAKING: Eastern Ukraine separatist leader Alexander Borodai says airliner shot down by Ukrainian gov. forces, Kiev denied involvement

Chaos!

 

[martyn20]

Russian Militants posted on Russian media sites that they had shot down another Ukrainian cargo plane, when reports started a passenger jet was missing these posts disappeared

 

[SeagullinExile]

Russian Militants posted on Russian media sites that they had shot down another Ukrainian cargo plane, when reports started a passenger jet was missing these posts disappeared

Ukrainian rebels will not have the technology to shoot down a flight at 33000 feet. Military flights generally fly at a lower levels, so easier to shoot down with shoulder mounted weapons. If indeed it was shot down at that height, only governments would have the technology to do this. Russia or the Ukraine is my guess - Probably an accident, because neither side would have anything to gain from this.

 

[Rookie]

Some pretty horrific, unverified, pictures doing the rounds on Twitter as people arrive at the crash site

 

[Surf's Up]

Why would Ukranian forces shoot down a plane - I wasn't aware that the Russian militants had any planes?!

 

[Rookie]

Why would Ukranian forces shoot down a plane - I wasn't aware that the Russian militants had any planes?!

Especially as it was apparently leaving their air space

 

[martyn20]

Ukrainian rebels will not have the technology to shoot down a flight at 33000 feet. Military flights generally fly at a lower levels, so easier to shoot down with shoulder mounted weapons. If indeed it was shot down at that height, only governments would have the technology to do this. Russia or the Ukraine is my guess - Probably an accident, because neither side would have anything to gain from this.

They do have a missile battery just outside Donetsk big enough to do this according to military specialist on Sky News, they have been getting several BUK missiles from Russian in the past few weeks

 

[WhingForPresident]

Photos of the scene. Some at the bottom of the page are graphic, avoid if you're squeamish:

http://www.buzzfeed.com/mikehayes/malaysian-airliner-crash-ukraine

 

[sam86]

Be very careful if you are searching for details on twitter and would not to see graphic images. Some horrific images being uploaded. So, so sad

 

[SeagullinExile]

They do have a missile battery just outside Donetsk big enough to do this according to military specialist on Sky News, they have been getting several BUK missiles from Russian in the past few weeks

If true, not likely that Rebels are manning it in my opinion, that kind of tech would be left to the pro's. Whoever did it, they would have nothing to gain from this. So a tragic error has been made by someone. IMO.

 

[Rugrat]

This world of our needs sorting out pretty quickly ... difficult to see how

 

[WhingForPresident]

If true, not likely that Rebels are manning it in my opinion, that kind of tech would be left to the pro's. Whoever did it, they would have nothing to gain from this. So a tragic error has been made by someone. IMO.

Who is to say that the Ukrainian rebels haven't been armed by the Russians, or have the Russian military fighting with them?

Maybe they mistook it for another transport plane?

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/07/14/uk-ukraine-crisis-idUKKBN0FH09520140714

 

[SeagullinExile]

Why would Ukranian forces shoot down a plane - I wasn't aware that the Russian militants had any planes?![/QUOTE

Why would either side shoot down a passenger airline deliberately? As I have already said, nothing to gain in the slightest by this.

 

[martyn20]

If true, not likely that Rebels are manning it in my opinion, that kind of tech would be left to the pro's. Whoever did it, they would have nothing to gain from this. So a tragic error has been made by someone. IMO.

This whole Ukrainian pro-Russian separatists tag is rubbish, they are Russian forces with their badges taken off. Putin controls them but this is clearly an error, no reason at all for either side to do it

 

[SeagullinExile]

Who is to say that the Ukrainian rebels haven't been armed by the Russians, or have the Russian military fighting with them?

Maybe they mistook it for another transport plane?

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/07/14/uk-ukraine-crisis-idUKKBN0FH09520140714

Of course Russian special forces are out there. It's their doorstep! Just like ours were in Libya amongst other places in the past.

 

[martyn20]

Ukraine had a cargo plane in the area and that's what the 'pro-Russian' separatists were targeting, they missed it clearly.

 

[TomandJerry]

17:59: German airline Lufthansa says it has decided to avoid eastern Ukrainian air space with immediate effect, Reuters reports.