Hmm. Who to trust. The IFS or some random called Ben on the internet? It's a toughie.
Also, it's a lot easier to thread ban people on this new tool. Just saying.
Also, it's a lot easier to thread ban people on this new tool. Just saying.
[Politics] Liz Truss **RESIGNS 20/10/2022**
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- Jul 10, 2003
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Maybe he doesn't want anyone to change their vote. I gave up trying to explain and persuade people why they should vote a certain way and what the alternative was when the electorate voted for Brexit and then followed it up by giving Johnson an 80 seat majority to 'Get Brexit Done'. Consequently, I've tried to take the view of a bemused bystander watching this whole clusterf*** take it's inevitable and entirely predictable way ever since
At the end of the day Toute nation a le gouvernement qu'elle mérite has simply been proven correct yet again.
Apparently Kwarteng won't be at the press conference.
Would not be surprised if there's 2 announcements:
1. Big U-Turn on the mini budget. At a bare minimum, expect to see the reinstatement of the increase in corporation tax from 19% to 25%.
2. Kwasi Kwarteng sacked. Truss needs to shore up support within her own party and head off a coup - would not be surprised to see Kwarteng sacked and replaced by Sunak or a prominent Sunak supporter.
But this demonstrates the crass stupidity of the two main opposition parties who can't get their act together to ensure that there is only one anti-Tory opposition candidate. Whoever came second to the Tory last time should get a clear run without the risk of splitting the anti Tory vote. Its really not at all difficult to arrange in wards / seats where there is a Tory incumbent.
But with a better system that wouldn't need to happen. In Australia there would have been a LDEM win in that seat - LAB came third, so their votes would have been recounted and second preferences assigned - and you can bet your house the vast majority would have gone LDEM.
If I was Sunak, I'd tell Truss to get stuffed. She made it perfectly clear what she thought of Sunak the minute she won the run-off, by completely blanking him before making her victory speech. Asking him for help would be a barely disguised, desperate bid to save her own skin.
Not that I care - Sunak was shite too, only marginally less shite than Truss.
Greg Bobkin
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- May 22, 2012
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Give it Big Sam until the end of the season.
She's not got many choices. Agree it most likely won't be Sunak (unless she's desperate and does a very lucrative (for him) deal to save her own pork market ... I mean bacon). But it will need to be someone who does what she needs in terms of heading off the coup planning, so it can't be a Truss lackey.
deletebeepbeepbeep
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- May 12, 2009
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Trying to save herself but it won't help as she is a fundamentally flawed and stupid person.
BenGarfield
Active member
I’m trying to discuss Truss’s economic policy is that not allowed?
More to the point: she's already lost the part of the electorate that her mini-budget screwed over. They won't forget. And with this u-turn, she'll also lose a chunk of those who *supported* her mini-budget. I very much doubt it will help her polling numbers at all - it could even see them drift further in the wrong direction.
He doesn't get to resign if he gets sacked
Absolutely. I'm not arguing that we shouldn't have a more democratic and representative system for voting but whilst we have FPTP the opposition parties should be making the most of it to squish the Tories into oblivion.
- Jul 10, 2003
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