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[Politics] Liz Truss **RESIGNS 20/10/2022**



rogersix

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Jan 18, 2014
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Not to equate this current shower's ideology with Hitler's fascists, but there are interesting political parallels to be spotted in the third series of BBC2's 'Rise of The Nazis'. The current series is confusingly titled, dealing, as it does, with the fall of the Nazis. Previous series have highlighted how Hitler deliberately sowed division among factions to maintain his own power, and the current series is showing the culmination of this approach when the power at the centre starts to crumble. All factions are unable to put aside their internal rivalries and hatreds and just end up fighting like rats in a bag. Armando Ianucci's 'Death of Stalin', although fictionalised, deals with the same issues occurring in the 1950's Soviet Union.

For the Conservative Party, this goes all the way back to Major's arguments with the anti-European 'Bastards'. The factionalism never went away after his massive defeat, but was actually increased by arrivestes and attempted compromises. Cameron's arrogant gamble of the UK's future on a referendum was done solely to try to end this internal squabble within his party. However, instead, it just started open warfare. Cameron's blindly ambitious fool of an Eton classmate, might reference Robert Graves' 'I Claudius' and say that the decision 'Let all the poisons that lurk(ed) in the mud, hatch out.'

The referendum result was 52% to 48%. Such a close outcome would logically point to democratic support for a middle ground compromise version of leaving that would maintain single market and customs union links. Instead, the whole business became a media fuelled mad scramble to be more Brexiteer than thou that was only going to be won by the 'swivel-eyed loons.' Johnson purged the party of any MPs willing to say 'The King is in the altogether' and the country is now left with the rump: A bunch of dogmatic ideologs who had no serious policies for tackling real world challenges and no ability to compromise with those who had a different view, because their only talent was a knack for convincingly blaming all of the nation's problems on a list of 'others' that was headed by immigrants and the EU. A talent that would have been considered very useful during 'The Rise of the Nazis', but that is of no use to anybody once the lie has become apparent to all.
top post. not even truss's new notional enemy, the "anti growth coalition", could generate enough hatred to coalesce the motley party around her. ah well, ................next!
 




Uh_huh_him

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Sep 28, 2011
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Not a bad pay off for completely failing in your 44 days as PM, £115k a year for the rest of your life. No wonder Truss was still smiling when she made her statement today.
Just heard that she won't qualify - not sure if true
 






Eeyore

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Apr 5, 2014
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BBC reporting a tweet from The Times that BJ is 'taking soundings' on running for leadership 'in the national interest' FFS :facepalm:
I actually had to pause for a second to work out if it was April 1st.
 








Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
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The media presented it as far left, manifestos told a different story of progressive taxation and public ownership. Let's not paint this as somehow equal across the political divide.
The respected IFS said the sums did not add up. Their additional spending plans were on a different scale to their proposed tax rises.

Sorry, it'll always be Blair-Starmer-Y.Cooper-A.Johnson Labour for me. Possibly Burnham too, we await his view on national policies.

Never Corbyn-Lansman-Burgon-Abbott. That would've been another comedy show, this time from the left.
 




Titanic

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Jul 5, 2003
39,132
West Sussex
Truly remarkable and turbulent times.

Really surprised they are getting the members involved again in the leadership election given the shitshow that's happened with Truss.
If the MPs cannot choose just one 'unity' candidate then we should have a General Election. Another lame duck and continued omniclustershamblesfuckery is not an option.
 


Si Gull

Way Down South
Mar 18, 2008
4,402
On top of the world
Not a bad pay off for completely failing in your 44 days as PM, £115k a year for the rest of your life. No wonder Truss was still smiling when she made her statement today.
Whichever side of the political fence you're standing, this just isn't right. As a populace we're being mugged off left, right, and centre. From the ERG tail wagging the dog, treating the vulnerable with contempt, to Johnson and Truss receiving pensions, most of us could only dream of, despite being forced out of their job for being incompetent. How do we change this?
 






beorhthelm

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Jul 21, 2003
35,332
just turned round to TV to see Johnson coming out of No10, speaking at lectern :oops:
then realised its old footage. they realy should put a "pre-recorded" label on the screen.
 


Pevenseagull

Anti-greed coalition
Jul 20, 2003
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Times reporting Johnson expected to stand.

Jesus Wept.


Edit ... Bit late on this
 


Bold Seagull

strong and stable with me, or...
Mar 18, 2010
29,833
Hove
The respected IFS said the sums did not add up. Their additional spending plans were on a different scale to their proposed tax rises.

Sorry, it'll always be Blair-Starmer-Y.Cooper-A.Johnson Labour for me. Possibly Burnham too, we await his view on national policies.

Never Corbyn-Lansman-Burgon-Abbott. That would've been another comedy show, this time from the left.
Disputing sums didn't make the policies far left, neither did the culture of personalities. You might be right, those personalities may not have been popular, but the policies were.
 




Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
Not a bad pay off for completely failing in your 44 days as PM, £115k a year for the rest of your life. No wonder Truss was still smiling when she made her statement today.
She had to be in the job for two months to qualify, so is one of the five PMs who won't be getting it. The other four are.
 


Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
Truly remarkable and turbulent times.

Really surprised they are getting the members involved again in the leadership election given the shitshow that's happened with Truss.
Voting online. What can possibly go wrong? Hacking, registrations from Russia?

The mind is boggled.
 




BenGarfield

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Feb 22, 2019
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crawley
The respected IFS said the sums did not add up. Their additional spending plans were on a different scale to their proposed tax rises.

Sorry, it'll always be Blair-Starmer-Y.Cooper-A.Johnson Labour for me. Possibly Burnham too, we await his view on national policies.

Never Corbyn-Lansman-Burgon-Abbott. That would've been another comedy show, this time from the left.
What sums would those be then? The IFS is a neo-liberal think tank
 








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