[Football] Leandro Trossard **Sold To Arsenal 20/01/2023**

[Wozza]

Posted on another thread last night. Funny heading...

 

[dazzer6666]

I understand your point but no two ways about it, we are still a stepping stone club. Its sometimes frustrating when ambitious young footballers dont proclaim their love for the Albion like us lifelong fans. Most (like Macca and Caceido) are professional show their dedication to the sport and just get on with their job. Tross comes across as very arrogant like a few other very talented elite professional footballers. I think the real bellend is his agent TBH from what I've seen of his behavior.

100%

We’ll stay a stepping-stone due to a) wages and b) trophies. Can’t see us ever fully matching the ‘elite’ clubs in contract terms, and unless we somehow start regularly winning stuff and competing in the CL the clubs that do will always be above us in the pecking order and will continue to pillage our staff.

On the plus side, the number of clubs in that position continues to shrink - now little more than a handful. Don’t see many more examples like gobby Villa fans thinking they’re going to poach Bissouma from us.

 

[Bozza]

Posted on another thread last night. Funny heading...

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That domain is still available if anyone wants to have some fun at Chelsea's expense...

 

[brightn'ove]

That domain is still available if anyone wants to have some fun at Chelsea's expense...

damn it is tempting to buy that domain and just set up a redirect to www.chelseafc.com

 

[Bozza]

damn it is tempting to buy that domain and just set up a redirect to www.chelseafc.com

...or have a simple one-page site where the user is asked to enter a name and the site will return whether Chelsea are going to buy the player or not.

The site always returns something like: probably, almost certainly, he's on the list, of course, only if Arsenal are trying to, you can never have enough players etc etc

 

[5Ways Gull]

TS early morning show said he’s going rumoured to be off to Chelsea

Straight swap for Colwill? Colwill plus cash?

 

[Paulie Gualtieri]

Seems to be a lack of training ground social media from the club this week which suggests he’s still in isolation if there at all

 

[nicko31]

Posted on another thread last night. Funny heading...

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Tross's values has definitely taken a hit, but we don't want negativity in the camp

 

[brightn'ove]

...or have a simple one-page site where the user is asked to enter a name and the site will return whether Chelsea are going to buy the player or not.

The site always returns something like: probably, almost certainly, he's on the list, of course, only if Arsenal are trying to, you can never have enough players etc etc

Enter your player's name now to get an instant quote!

Name: [Paddy McCourt]
We'll pay: £35,000,000
Length of contract: 7.5 years

 

[mejonaNO12 aka riskit]

Slightly off topic but I'm watching the 4-part Transfer Deadline Day documentary on Sky at the moment. Basically it follows a few players and their agents during the Summer '22 transfer window. Really interesting to see all the steps happening WAY before A club even dares to consider contacting the selling club. The agents are acting as the mediator/middleman and sourcing buying clubs and chatting with them away before an offer is made. In one clip, the agent of a player was communicating to the selling club the offer a buying club was thinking of making and being told it wasn't going to happen. Just goes to show how done the days are of "A club can't speak to a player until they have made an offer first". The contracts etc are agreed WAY before that.

Chances are with Trossard that clubs will already have 'agreed' terms in principle with/agent way before we hear about any sort of bids being made.

Worth giving the programme a watch. In some case it's really nice to see an agent actively telling their client to not choose the best financial offer but to think about which club is best for their career/playing time.

In other cases, it'll just add to hatred towards agents.

And for fans of Championship Manager, Cherno Samba is featured as one of the agents.

 

[dwayne]

Slightly off topic but I'm watching the 4-part Transfer Deadline Day documentary on Sky at the moment. Basically it follows a few players and their agents during the Summer '22 transfer window. Really interesting to see all the steps happening WAY before A club even dares to consider contacting the selling club. The agents are acting as the mediator/middleman and sourcing buying clubs and chatting with them away before an offer is made. In one clip, the agent of a player was communicating to the selling club the offer a buying club was thinking of making and being told it wasn't going to happen. Just goes to show how done the days are of "A club can't speak to a player until they have made an offer first". The contracts etc are agreed WAY before that.

Chances are with Trossard that clubs will already have 'agreed' terms in principle with/agent way before we hear about any sort of bids being made.

Worth giving the programme a watch. In some case it's really nice to see an agent actively telling their client to not choose the best financial offer but to think about which club is best for their career/playing time.

In other cases, it'll just add to hatred towards agents.

And for fans of Championship Manager, Cherno Samba is featured as one of the agents.

This kind of adds fuel to the fire that clubs are interested in trossand will pay him a nice wedge... just not interested enough to pay much money to Brighton for him.

Cue the crying like a bitch from trossypoos.

 

[mejonaNO12 aka riskit]

This kind of adds fuel to the fire that clubs are interested in trossand will pay him a nice wedge... just not interested enough to pay much money to Brighton for him.

Cue the crying like a bitch from trossypoos.

Exactly. As an agent if you can agree terms with the player you can immediately then push the rhetoric of "well, we have done EVERYTHING we can, it's just your club being unreasonable and not accepting an offer yet".

Cue player getting more aggy at his club and kicking off, feeling a great injustice has been done. I guess once you have that bigger wage agreed with another club you are sitting there on rightmove working out what your new house in London is going to be.

 

[Swansman]

Slightly off topic but I'm watching the 4-part Transfer Deadline Day documentary on Sky at the moment. Basically it follows a few players and their agents during the Summer '22 transfer window. Really interesting to see all the steps happening WAY before A club even dares to consider contacting the selling club. The agents are acting as the mediator/middleman and sourcing buying clubs and chatting with them away before an offer is made. In one clip, the agent of a player was communicating to the selling club the offer a buying club was thinking of making and being told it wasn't going to happen. Just goes to show how done the days are of "A club can't speak to a player until they have made an offer first". The contracts etc are agreed WAY before that.

Chances are with Trossard that clubs will already have 'agreed' terms in principle with/agent way before we hear about any sort of bids being made.

Worth giving the programme a watch. In some case it's really nice to see an agent actively telling their client to not choose the best financial offer but to think about which club is best for their career/playing time.

In other cases, it'll just add to hatred towards agents.

And for fans of Championship Manager, Cherno Samba is featured as one of the agents.

Well, it is probably technically true in a lot of cases - but nothing stopping clubs from speaking with the agencies, just the player directly (though surely that happens as well).

It is indeed the players market these days but for a 100 years it wasn't and that was equally bad. Slavelike conditions until 1963 and then absurd ones until 1995.
Player power won't decrease until there is some sort of salary cap which seems far away.

 

[ewe2]

Shirley we will not replace him but promote from within. I know Kardra is on loan but IMO is worth a place in next season’s squad

 

[Springal]

Shirley we will not replace him but promote from within. I know Kardra is on loan but IMO is worth a place in next season’s squad

He is a long way off a team with top half PL ambitions

 

[Mellor 3 Ward 4]

Which makes Trossard’s behaviour of trying to force a transfer to a Big 6 even more silly - he could be playing more minutes of Euro/Champions football ball with us for the last few years of his career than warming benches at the Big 6/7

Agree - but he would no doubt be earning (minimum) twice as much.

 

[The Fits]

He is a long way off a team with top half PL ambitions

Adringa much closer. Khadra needs at least the rest of the season (at Brum) a) starting and b) contributing, to be even close IMHO.

 

[TugWilson]

Well, it is probably technically true in a lot of cases - but nothing stopping clubs from speaking with the agencies, just the player directly (though surely that happens as well).

It is indeed the players market these days but for a 100 years it wasn't and that was equally bad. Slavelike conditions until 1963 and then absurd ones until 1995.
Player power won't decrease until there is some sort of salary cap which seems far away.

We all know the top 6-7 are never going to allow a salary cap , it`s how they keep the rest of us below them , can you imagine us competing with them as we are currently ! . They already get the benefit of VAR ( Rashford in the Manc derby ) Welbeck opening day ( should of been a pen and 3-0 ) the ref that day was from Manchester .

Most importantly it would take some power away from bottom feeding agents , one way or another it`s as slanted as the old Huish Park .

 

[Swansman]

Atletico Madrid and Barcelona fighting about whether Depay should move to the former for £3m or £5m really says all you need to know about the football finances in Europe right now.

Would be much preferable if there was a chance to ship him abroad rather than to a competitor, but struggle to see how that would happen.

 

[Ratso2005]

Sky have just put one of their vids out. Are they In The Know? Fee agreed?