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Bold Seagull
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Trouble is with Strauss, he was no where near as good as either batsman or captain as he thinks he was.
Trouble is with someone so fresh out of playing, their opinion on players is clouded by how they still view themselves. We are in real trouble if he starts trying to shape this team into his own batting and captaincy style.
Trouble is with someone so fresh out of playing, their opinion on players is clouded by how they still view themselves. We are in real trouble if he starts trying to shape this team into his own batting and captaincy style.
Deep trouble I would suggest.
KZNSeagull
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What trust issue is Strauss banging on about now? Textgate has been dealt with (and he did not refer to Strauss in Afrikaans as a see you next tuesday, the word he used translates to more like pillock or prat), he apologised and was re-integrated. So what is the issue now?
KZNSeagull
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I have now been informed that the word used literally means "box", so would be the equivalent of fanny. There is another Afrikaans word that is much more vulgar when referring to the same thing.
Carry on.
- Apr 13, 2015
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In the colloquial sense, it means an idiot at one end of the spectrum, it means lady-bits at the other end of the extreme........I used to use it myself when I lived there.
KZNSeagull
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Quite. Everytime I have heard it used, people tend to laugh it off. Not something you would necessarily do if called the extremely vulgar english version. Strauss' outburst on radio was far worse.
It will lead to some interesting betting propositions though. I see that NZ are 11/2 for a 2-0 series win.
Bombadier Botty
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- Jun 2, 2008
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Completely agree. What South Africa could have achieved down the years with KP in the side doesn't bear thinking about.
Lenny Rider
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- Sep 15, 2010
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Strauss is really putting his head on the block here, what now if,
New Zealand beat us and the Aussies smash us, whilst KP is scoring runs for fun with Surrey?
Should he have made it so public?
New Zealand beat us and the Aussies smash us, whilst KP is scoring runs for fun with Surrey?
Should he have made it so public?
He certainly should have made it public - otherwise there would have been 'where's Kev' demands all the time this debacle was happening. To say nothing of all the anti-Strauss radio, TV and newspaper articles and (probably) a 200K name petition for him to be brought back. By making this statement so public he has cast himself as the main bad guy and taken the pressure off the other selectors. However, it should allow us all to have a bet on NZ and Aus winning the series knowing that KP won't be around to interfere.
Think this is KP's last game for Surrey for a while - he's off to the IPL for a bit. Whether he'll come back is another matter
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I'm amazed at the willingness to forgive and forget with this.
The texts, the book, his part in the original sacking of Moore, the apparent attitude as highlighted by Boycott in the Australian test or was he just being 'bullied', poor love.......
He earns a lot less as a non-international in the IPL (which could be one of the reasons he is keen to re-establish his international career) and even Flintoff at Luke Wright's dinner, indicated that he can only be trusted for a short period of time before he upsets people, I won't print what Prior called him.........
No player is bigger than the team and I am pleased with the stance of Strauss.
Vegas Seagull
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- Jul 10, 2009
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He's not English & should never have been allowed to pick up the stick
KZNSeagull
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I would agree, however, I have just seen an interview with Strauss on Sky in which he said "Myself and Kevin have huge trust issues, I wish we didn't but it is a fact". Nothing about the ECB and Kevin, or the team and Kevin. Strauss and Kevin. That to me makes this a personal decision and not necessarily an England cricket decision.
Bold Seagull
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We you there too? I did like the moment when Prior was descending into detail way beyond what was needed at an after dinner event, when Freddie looked up and said "do you think you should let it go now Matt?". Good night though, delighted to meet a broadcasting hero in Henry Blofeld.
I will add that no matter what KP did in the past, to tell him to get back into County cricket and he stands a chance of being picked, only to tell him he has no chance of being picked is nothing short of amateurish and disgraceful really. The whole setup, the ECB, the players, it doesn't seem a very trustworthy place at the moment. Strauss is the wrong man for the job IMHO. The ECB and England need a shot in the arm, not more of the same.
GT49er
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That's who he should have been playing for ..........
Bold Seagull
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I can't believe people can't get past the nationality issue. His mother is English, simple as that.
If we took out every English cricketer than has played for England not born in this country, we'd probably find we never actually ever had 11 blokes on the field all born in the UK at anyone time.
Tony Greig's father was Scottish and he captained the side!
Strauss, Prior, Geraint Jones, Lumb, Kieswetter, Morgan, Lamb, Chris and Robin Smith, Hick, Derek Pringle, Dermot Reeve, Chris Lewis, Phil Defreitas, Gladstone Small....to name a few!
If we took out every English cricketer than has played for England not born in this country, we'd probably find we never actually ever had 11 blokes on the field all born in the UK at anyone time.
Tony Greig's father was Scottish and he captained the side!
Strauss, Prior, Geraint Jones, Lumb, Kieswetter, Morgan, Lamb, Chris and Robin Smith, Hick, Derek Pringle, Dermot Reeve, Chris Lewis, Phil Defreitas, Gladstone Small....to name a few!
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