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Kevin Pietersen
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Change at Barnham
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And let's not forget Pietersen calling Strauss a c*** in Afrikkans when texting his South African mates. And slagging off Broad, Anderson and Cook in is autobiography. Who out of Ballance, Bell or Root do you drop for a nearly 35 year old? The bloke is odious and has stabbed most former colleagues in the back.
This is the most salient point. All three have a good test record, all three scored centuries in the last series. If Figjam were to come back, one of them would have to go. Really can't see it
And that's ignoring the fact that scoring runs against Leicestershire is the equivalent of banging in four goals against Tranmere Rovers
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I've never heard the acronym Figjam, I have just looked it up and as such will try to use once a week at work.
Bombadier Botty
Complete Twaddle
- Jun 2, 2008
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When did Piers Morgan play for England in the first place?
Well he's a more valid Englishman than Kevin 'Pietermaritzburg KwaZulu-Natal' Pietersen!
Bold Seagull
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You can't drop Bell as no matter how bad his form is, or how well he's playing, he's clearly an unmoveable fixture!
Joking aside, KP isn't really in line for Ballance or Root's role. KP opened the batting in ODI's in 2012 (not sure if he did in the test side?), given that is the vacant slot, I'd say **** it, lets see how he gets on opening. He might end up like Warner and change what it means to be in that role.
Working class pride
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- Feb 14, 2010
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Who would you drop for him? As Alec Stewart said, wrong question, he is the best player, so its who get in the side with him. The only thing the selectors need to know is that the Australians don't want to play against him. I'm actually not a massive fan. Great player at destroying bad bowling and better than anything we have at the ,moment but he is not a great like Boycott, Richards and the like but better than we have at moment. So therefore he plays. Simple selecting a team isnt it. Not sure why Ive not been asked to be manager yet.
Great. We've just tried moving a middle-order batsman to opener and that was a complete disaster so let's try that again (and that's before we consider the idea of KP and Cook as openers - no easy chemistry there)
Publius Ovidius
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Bold Seagull
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Great. We've just tried moving a middle-order batsman to opener and that was a complete disaster so let's try that again (and that's before we consider the idea of KP and Cook as openers - no easy chemistry there)
Well, you could put a
for Cook for the past 3 years! A single century against the West Indies is hardly a return to form. FYI, we just tried a guy with some mental health issues requiring his early retirement from international cricket - hardly a fair statement. We also tried a load of specialist openers who couldn't cut the mustard either (although I think they all suffered batting with a struggling Cook).
Australia had no problem looking at Watson to open while they were in a jam, and he didn't do too bad until Warner responding to Lehman's leadership. It isn't about whether a 'middle order' batsman can open, it's about whether a batsman is good enough to open.
I just think this England side needs a right kick up the arse. Sticking KP into the centre of it all could be exactly what they need to remind the senior players they don't run this side. Could be a disaster, could be a masterstroke. Worth a try in my opinion.
Well, you could put a
FYI, we just tried a guy with some mental health issues requiring his early retirement from international cricket - hardly a fair statement. We also tried a load of specialist openers who couldn't cut the mustard either (although I think they all suffered batting with a struggling Cook).
Think that's a bit harsh on Carberry and Compton - thought both were discarded too early (Robson clearly had technical issues). And Cook has a superb record for England, it was worth persevering with him.
Yes, fair point about Watson, he responded well. Warner was an opener though, he wasn't converted to one - and he was playing test cricket well before Lehman took over - although he's really kicked on under Boof
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Bold Seagull
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I only referred to Warner as taking over from Watson which is why Watson stopped opening. Warner is a unique opener though lets be fair. He plays aggressive in an almost middle order like bravado. There is very little of a traditional opener in him.
I wasn't harsh on Carberry or Compton - their achilles heal was the dreadful form of Cook. Had they come into an England side with an in form opener, it would have been a different story for them.
Cook as a great record for England up to the end of 2012. 2013 onward he has a poor record. He still bats like he is hanging on for dear life and every delivery is a hand grenade. I don't know what the answer is at this point. At least sticking KP for this summer means that if it goes tits up, you've got an automatic scapegoat - big positive on its own!
Yes, Warner is certainly a different type of opener. Don't think he's unique though - Sehwag and Gayle play the same way.
Carberry was second top scorer on the dreadful Ashes tour. He has a test match average of 28.75 after six games. To put that into perspective: Graham Gooch had an average of 32.12 after six games (against much easier opposition), so it's clearly not a shocking record.
I agree that Pietersen would shake things up a bit if he were to open but can't see Strauss taking the risk. He's not by nature one of life's gamblers
Bold Seagull
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I know, I'm saying it's Cook fault Carberry and Compton went, I liked Carberry - definitely should have been given more time, in fact if I had my way I'd have had Carberry and Compton opening together at one point and told Cook to go back and learn how to bat again in the County game. Not only did Carberry do well in that Ashes tour, given his limited innings, proportionally he was incredibly unlucky with a few of his dismissals too if I remember rightly. Another classic knee jerk reaction from England. They think they see a technical flaw and thats it.
'Straussy' won't take another risk, and 'Cooky' will want someone in that can be blamed when we don't have an opening stand over 30 all summer. Jobs for the boys.
I'd love to see KP back in there I really would. It would be entertaining on all sorts of levels if nothing else!
- Apr 5, 2014
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Jonathan Agnew @Aggerscricket 9 minutes ago
I gather Strauss has confirmed to KP this evening that he will not be selected for England again.
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I gather Strauss has confirmed to KP this evening that he will not be selected for England again.
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albion1972
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- Dec 14, 2014
- 523
Breaking on on bbc KP told no matter how many runs he scores he will never play for England again. Bet KP regrets that book now after writing that there was no way he could ever come back.
vegster
Sanity Clause
- May 5, 2008
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The ECB's final thank you to KP, excellent. Expect him to wriggle out of his Surrey contract or suffer a recurrence of his knee injury in the next month or so..