That was my understanding...a bit of retribution he hoped wouldn't be noticed (IF SO, pretty twattish from an experienced pro).
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[Albion] Just what was Dahoud thinking?
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mile oak
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- May 21, 2023
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This is the sort of thing the club should appeal on
pb21
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- Apr 23, 2010
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Well, it's absolutely not getting overturned, and the VAR didn't intervene either so a red card is definitely fair and reasonable, or at least not unreasonable. What would have been interesting is if the ref missed it, or gave a yellow; in that case I'm not sure a red would've ultimately resulted.
After, watching the rugby wc recently, I reckon that would have been the 10-min sin bin, but mitigating circumstances ultimately no red card.
Regardless, it was a red and it was arguably/probably/certainly correct.
- Aug 24, 2020
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That is my assessment.
I remember the Arsenal game last season, Martinelli flattened Mitoma. A couple of minutes later, Caicedo went in hard on Martinelli and got away with it. He exchanged a smile with Mitoma afterwards. That is how it should be done. Rule 1 - don't get caught.
Misses 3 more games when we need a DM. So costly on all counts.
Seagull58
In the Algarve
We held on with 10 for 4 minutes.
ElectricNaz
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Be interested to see from those who think it was "only a yellow" how many of you were also calling for Fabinho to get a 100 game retrospective ban after that tackle on Ferguson in the cup last season.
Almost the exact same tackle
Almost the exact same tackle
I thought a straight red - no complaints at that.
I think personally that Dahoud has done relatively little to impress since he came here. If I was
him, I would take this break opportunity as a watershed moment. I think it's all or nothing for him.
I think personally that Dahoud has done relatively little to impress since he came here. If I was
him, I would take this break opportunity as a watershed moment. I think it's all or nothing for him.
London Irish
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Strongly disagree with this. Really added some impetus to get the equaliser at Everton and then was fine in Amsterdam. I’ve seen enough now that we’ve got a good player, albeit one who has taken time to adjust to this league (which shouldn’t surprise anyone). He’s adjusting slightly quicker than Baleba, for example, but both good signings
- Oct 20, 2022
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Can only put it down to frustration and inexperience I suppose - maybe seeing the heavy tackle on Gilmour moments before? Whether it was ‘intentional’ or not - dangerous play and a deserved red card - we were in uproar when Ferguson was stamped on his achilles by Fabinho - it’s risking a potentially a career changing injury when a player does that to another player - can understand why RDZ said he doesn’t like ‘80% referees’ though - he was probably wondering why Fabinho got away with a blatant red on Ferguson - the inconsistency in English refereeing is appalling.
Garry Nelson's Left Foot
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It looked a fair enough red to me.
It's very disappointing because it not only paid a large contributing part in us not winning the game but it takes him out of our next however many games at a point where we already have a lot of players unavailable.
I hope he doesn't become the new whipping boy but he does, in my opinion, have a lot of making up to do. He's shown flashes of quality but he hasn't pulled up any trees in a Brighton shirt yet so to get a stupid and costly red card like that isn't a great look.
It's very disappointing because it not only paid a large contributing part in us not winning the game but it takes him out of our next however many games at a point where we already have a lot of players unavailable.
I hope he doesn't become the new whipping boy but he does, in my opinion, have a lot of making up to do. He's shown flashes of quality but he hasn't pulled up any trees in a Brighton shirt yet so to get a stupid and costly red card like that isn't a great look.
Justice
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If VAR isn’t giving the correct decisions because their mate is already having a bad game then it’s corruption. We don’t want it to be as supporters although I think we’ve all seen to many dubious decisions against us as a smaller club.
Birdie Boy
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I don't think it was intentional, he was trying to shield the ball. However, it is a red because it was dangerous even though the Sheffield player stuck his leg there rather than Dahoud going for his leg.
I also strongly disagree. He’s taken time to adjust, but there’s a good player in there and he’s certainly an upgrade on Gilmour. He’s not had a decent run of games which doesn’t help matters either.
sussex_guy2k2
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Watching this again, I don’t know how anyone thinks this is anything less than a straight red. Even frame by frame. Frame by frame it actually looks worse.
I’d be furious if someone has done that to one of our players.
The grounds for an appeal are “For an appeal to be successful, you must prove that the referee made an obvious error in sending the player off.”
It wasn’t obvious error and the club then run the risk of an extra game being added to the suspension for being “frivolous”.
I’d be surprised if we appeal this.
pb21
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- Apr 23, 2010
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This is my take too, and I also think Dahoud attempted to shield ball not expecting the Sheffield player to get their leg there first, considering they had to stick it out behind them.
BRIGHT ON Q
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- Jul 5, 2003
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Upgrade on Gilmour?!?!
You having a laugh, he needs to watch How Gilmour moves into space and always offers for the ball for a start.
I agree Gilmour moves into space very well, but as I have said before this is only when there is space and the midfield is open, isn’t very tight or congested. He isn’t strong enough to dictate play otherwise. In short I think he is quite a lightweight player. Good for some games, too weak for others.
Nobby Cybergoat
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- Jul 19, 2021
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Sorry, but that's totally different.
Fabinho, comes from behind and has no chance of playing the ball. He's nowhere near it, he's gone to ground, unlike Dahoud. It must be a red.
Dahoud's actions look to be consistent with someone trying to play the game. To me it's near identical to Rashford in the week. He's looking at the ball, he plants his foot, to protect it and give him give him leverage to get his pass off. The foot goes onto the leg fair enough, but there's no excessive force applied
I said on here after the Rashford sending off, that the rule should be something like .....
Where the player carries out a
a) "normal footballing action" consistent with someone trying to play the ball and
b) The player has a realistic chance of playing the ball and
c) where there's no clear recklessness for the opponents safety and
d) there is no excessive force applied,
The action should not be considered serious fair play.
Rashford and Dahoud should have stayed on
Fabinho should have gone