Sheebo
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- Jul 13, 2003
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Yeh that’s what I meant / said…? They can only be recalled in January now too I think and it depends on the loan agreement as to whether the Jan option is there..
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[Albion] Jeremy Sarmiento [1/1/24 - Recalled from West Brom loan]
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Justice
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He was loaned to play every week he wouldn’t get that here and would hinder his development.
OzMike
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He would be playing every week for Albion if he were back now.
Nobby Cybergoat
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- Jul 19, 2021
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So we don't know for sure about any recall clause. But it would make no sense to me if there wasn't one.
If you're loaning a senior player on high wages with a view to a sale, there usually isn't one or it isn't exercised.
But in this situation, where we are agreeing the loan to develop the player, there is no motivation for us whatsoever to accept any demand West Brom make to leave out a recall clause. There are no shortage of Championship clubs looking to take a player like Sarmiento on loan. When negotiating his loan, we held all the cards.
We didn't loan him there to get him off the wage bill or to get him in the shop window. It is totally predictable, that we would want the option open of him coning back in January
If you're loaning a senior player on high wages with a view to a sale, there usually isn't one or it isn't exercised.
But in this situation, where we are agreeing the loan to develop the player, there is no motivation for us whatsoever to accept any demand West Brom make to leave out a recall clause. There are no shortage of Championship clubs looking to take a player like Sarmiento on loan. When negotiating his loan, we held all the cards.
We didn't loan him there to get him off the wage bill or to get him in the shop window. It is totally predictable, that we would want the option open of him coning back in January
Nobby Cybergoat
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I agree with this. He was ahead of Facu last season. I think it's only his patchy injury record that meant he got loaned out at all
Justice
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Possibly and then wouldn’t when they all return to fitness.
- Oct 12, 2022
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I was under the impression that his loan was to give him more minutes than we could promise him here. As it turns out, we probably would have used him a lot more than expected, but hindsight’s a wonderful thing.
Great if he can come back in January, but equally if there’s no clause he’s getting minutes and valuable experience where he is, not the end of the world for his long term development.
Great if he can come back in January, but equally if there’s no clause he’s getting minutes and valuable experience where he is, not the end of the world for his long term development.
OzMike
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They will not be likely to return all at the same time though.
Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo
Waxing chumps like candles since ‘75
- Oct 4, 2003
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He’s playing every week but mainly off the bench. He’s only started twice in the League for them this season. He went for game time and he’s not really getting as much as he and probably the club wanted him to. He’s only played something like 21% of Championship minutes this season. Even allowing for him missing 5 games through injury that isn’t much at all.
If there is a recall option I wouldn’t be overly surprised to see if exercised, wether that would be to return to our squad or for the club to look at alternatives for a loan move would have to be seen.
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- Jun 27, 2012
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NSC would have every loan player back - especially if they’ve just scored a goal - regardless of where they might fit, how it might prevent other players from playing , whether personally they’d want to and with no heed to how it might impact their development . Which is why they were loaned in the first place.
Moran, Sarmiento, Undav, Leonard, Sima etc . Bring em home is the cry.
Always
PS - it was a cross
Moran, Sarmiento, Undav, Leonard, Sima etc . Bring em home is the cry.
Always
PS - it was a cross
Justice
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Moran looks ready from what I’ve seen very good player and scores possibly next seasons break through player.
- Jun 27, 2012
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Agreed. He’s the real deal. But needs to see out the season on loan (as does Sarmiento)
If Albion have a gap - TB will buy someone. That left side needs strengthening.
GT49er
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That, at the very best, is a huge exaggeration!
Uh_huh_him
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- Sep 28, 2011
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Funny, I was just thinking about him yesterday.
Checked to see how he was getting on and was disappointed to see how few minutes he was getting.
That will be frustrating, and probably worth a discussion with West Brom.
Checked to see how he was getting on and was disappointed to see how few minutes he was getting.
That will be frustrating, and probably worth a discussion with West Brom.
Don’t think any of our loanees will be recalled……..season-loan deals unlikely to have recall clauses.
Flounce
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He had a long term injury earlier in the season didn’t he?
Uh_huh_him
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5 games, but he was only getting minutes prior to that too.
Think he's yet to play a full 90
Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo
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Recall clauses can only be included in season long loans. They aren't needed for half season loans because the loan ends automatically in January. It will very much depend on the player and where they have gone, but I'd imagine some players would have recall clauses to protect them from being at clubs where they simply aren't getting mins and its in our better interests to recall them and either have them back with the first team or U23s or find another loan for them.
He wasn't fit at the back end of last season. Hard ask to throw someone with his record straight into a Championship team competing at the top end of the table.
They seem to be bringing him into the side in a very considered manner. Best for him, them and us.
Their game with Leicester is ony Sky on Saturday lunchtime so hopefully another start then.
They seem to be bringing him into the side in a very considered manner. Best for him, them and us.
Their game with Leicester is ony Sky on Saturday lunchtime so hopefully another start then.
macbeth
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but we aren’t talking about now, that would be in january