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[Football] If Palace can't play in the Europa League



Hugo Rune

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Whilst I agree it will probably get sorted out, I am also wondering on what grounds?
I'm predicting that this independent UEFA financial subcommittee will accept Palace's argument at the end of this month due to Textor not having more than a 25% vote at board level.

They will then add detailed clarification to their rules that will enable multi-club ownership beyond 30% BUT with the caveat that if there is majority ownership in two clubs in the same UEFA competition, voting rights and control of the club must not exceed 25% as is the case at Palace.

I think the blind trust and Textor shares sale in the next two weeks are off the table.
 




Hotchilidog

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I'm predicting that this independent UEFA financial subcommittee will accept Palace's argument at the end of this month due to Textor not having more than a 25% vote at board level.

They will then add detailed clarification to their rules that will enable multi-club ownership beyond 30% BUT with the caveat that if there is majority ownership in two clubs in the same UEFA competition, voting rights and control of the club must not exceed 25% as is the case at Palace.

I think the blind trust and Textor shares sale in the next two weeks are off the table.
Accommodating them by changing the rule? I think not. This will only open UEFA to action from ever other club that had complied with the rule.
 


Flounce

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Accommodating them by changing the rule? I think not. This will only open UEFA to action from ever other club that had complied with the rule.
Other than Forest and the Albion there is no dog in the fight for other clubs and I don’t see anyone other than Forest up for challenging UEFA in court personally.
 
















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Forest would do it. That’s more than enough
I wonder if EUFA officials would shit themselves as much as Greek judges appear to have done over the heroin laden ship that the Forest owner (sorry ex owner) was allegedly involved with, in reaching a decision that goes against him :wink:
 


hughfromalice

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I don't think this has been posted yet, but this article is interesting.

I think we have quite a good chance of playing European football next year. IF .... EUFA sticks to it's own rules.

For example, "No one may simultaneously be involved, either directly or indirectly, in any capacity whatsoever in the management, administration and/or sporting performance of more than one club participating in a UEFA club competition”.

Even though they are rivals I'm sorry for Palace fans.

Their board of management has let them down badly. They are running a business that turns over hundreds of millions of pounds a year. Their excuses are paper thin. They didn't even bother to cover the basics of risk management. They are not running a village football team.

Thank goodness we have a smart owner, good board, ceo and staff!!
 


BadFish

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I'm predicting that this independent UEFA financial subcommittee will accept Palace's argument at the end of this month due to Textor not having more than a 25% vote at board level.

They will then add detailed clarification to their rules that will enable multi-club ownership beyond 30% BUT with the caveat that if there is majority ownership in two clubs in the same UEFA competition, voting rights and control of the club must not exceed 25% as is the case at Palace.

I think the blind trust and Textor shares sale in the next two weeks are off the table.
I am not sure they are going to change the rule to accommodate them. Nor should they.
 




bhafc99

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If UEFA felt certain about things, why the need for an independent panel?
 










Audax

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Other than Forest and the Albion there is no dog in the fight for other clubs and I don’t see anyone other than Forest up for challenging UEFA in court personally.

... and any other clubs that have historically been blocked but would have been ok under the revised rule, and/or any other clubs where owners have adjusted their holdings in order to meet the rules as written. UEFA would be potentially opening a massive can of worms if they actually changed the rules at the last minute to allow Palace in.
 


hans kraay fan club

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I'm predicting that this independent UEFA financial subcommittee will accept Palace's argument at the end of this month due to Textor not having more than a 25% vote at board level.

They will then add detailed clarification to their rules that will enable multi-club ownership beyond 30% BUT with the caveat that if there is majority ownership in two clubs in the same UEFA competition, voting rights and control of the club must not exceed 25% as is the case at Palace.
This would be an absolutely nonsensical position, open for rampant abuse. Nothing to stop an entity owning majority share in multiple clubs, and implementing sham agreements that their lapdog minority shareholder 'holds the majority voting rights'. Completely unenforceable.

Actual ownership of the shares is the only absolute measure that can be properly monitored and policed, so the MCO rules must continue to be based only on this.
 


rippleman

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100% agree.

Which is why we need to get back on track and start posting twitter posts and links to other social media examples of palace fans shitting themselves and going into meltdown. Put the FUN back into the situation rather than repeating the same points over and over and over again.

I'll do my part by posting the thread from holmesdale.net


I haven't read it yet but there must surely be some great posts in there:thumbsup:
That thread is disgusting and so typical of palace. Not once have they considered the plight of poor old Wolves.
 




kevo

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I'm predicting that this independent UEFA financial subcommittee will accept Palace's argument at the end of this month due to Textor not having more than a 25% vote at board level.

They will then add detailed clarification to their rules that will enable multi-club ownership beyond 30% BUT with the caveat that if there is majority ownership in two clubs in the same UEFA competition, voting rights and control of the club must not exceed 25% as is the case at Palace.

I think the blind trust and Textor shares sale in the next two weeks are off the table.
This is my feeling about it too. As much as I'd LOVE them to be chucked out, I just can't see it happening.

Yes, it would leave UEFA open to legal action by Forest and possibly ourselves, but they'd face legal action from Palace if they expelled them.

Clarity is needed on the rules, and UEFA will recognise that, but I suspect any change won't happen until some time in the future, when the furore has died down a bit.
 


hans kraay fan club

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This is my feeling about it too. As much as I'd LOVE them to be chucked out, I just can't see it happening.

Yes, it would leave UEFA open to legal action by Forest and possibly ourselves, but they'd face legal action from Palace if they expelled them.

Clarity is needed on the rules, and UEFA will recognise that, but I suspect any change won't happen until some time in the future, when the furore has died down a bit.
They do not meet the rules for eligibility.

No court will care about anything other than those rules, and interpretation of them.

IF UEFA disqualify Palace, any legal action on their part would be pointless.
 


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