FWIW I’m not defending anyone, I just want The Sun to end up sued to high heaven and shut down
[News] Huw Edwards
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clapham_gull
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Thought there might be some clarity on Newsnight tonight, especially with some reports of internal complaints.
Pundits ?
Rod Liddle and Alan f***ing Yentob.
This week was the week that the media disappeared up its own arsehole, an arsehole tickled by Social Media by a left over tickle stick discarded by Ken Did He Doddy Dodd.
If you try to take the moral high ground on this issue you will be slapped in the face by a discarded stained and faded issue of Razzle and quietly enjoy it.
What a f***ing mess.
Pundits ?
Rod Liddle and Alan f***ing Yentob.
This week was the week that the media disappeared up its own arsehole, an arsehole tickled by Social Media by a left over tickle stick discarded by Ken Did He Doddy Dodd.
If you try to take the moral high ground on this issue you will be slapped in the face by a discarded stained and faded issue of Razzle and quietly enjoy it.
What a f***ing mess.
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Why is Rod Liddle still permitted in civilised society?
portlock seagull
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- Jul 28, 2003
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You do realise Freddy Star didn’t eat someone’s hamster, don’t you?
There's close to zero chance of that happening though, sadly.
1. The Sun did not state the unnamed presenter was guilty of any criminal offence. I guess there was an implication, of sorts, in stating the young person concerned was 17-years-old at the time images were first shared, but The Sun did not explicitly say an offence had taken place. They may have been intentionally vague on this point to give them an escape route.
2. I can't believe that Huw Edwards, particularly given his mental health problems, would want to go up in court against The Sun, requiring the finer details of his private life to be played out for all to see. Beyond that, The Sun have very deep pockets, and it would take a lot of cash to take them on.
portlock seagull
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Yawn. Poor
In these enlightened times people in key posts can have mental health issues and be candid about it.
We’ve moved on from The Final Solution.
portlock seagull
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It’s like Putin attacking liberal democracies. Easy to. But might just have miscalculated at last.
Greg Bobkin
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I'm not sure mental health works like that...
Iggle Piggle
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Like everything its become a polarised debate.
Do I like the Sun and what it stands for? No, albeit I was always a page 3 fan as a teenage paperboy. My opinion has obviously gone downhill as life has gone on. This could be their NOTW moment.
Does Huw Edwards come out of this well? No, again. Taking the legality out of it, coughing up 35 large for explicit photos of a 17 or 18 year old is splitting hairs when they are old enough to be your grandchildren. That bit hasn't been denied.in the statement and is very carefully worded.
Whilst watching that wazzock Rod Liddle on Newsnight is totally unedifying, quite simply they'd be no story if Huw hadn't gone down the path he had done. If he was a Tory MP, we'd all be agreeing. And he'd have probably got away with it as well.
Do I like the Sun and what it stands for? No, albeit I was always a page 3 fan as a teenage paperboy. My opinion has obviously gone downhill as life has gone on. This could be their NOTW moment.
Does Huw Edwards come out of this well? No, again. Taking the legality out of it, coughing up 35 large for explicit photos of a 17 or 18 year old is splitting hairs when they are old enough to be your grandchildren. That bit hasn't been denied.in the statement and is very carefully worded.
Whilst watching that wazzock Rod Liddle on Newsnight is totally unedifying, quite simply they'd be no story if Huw hadn't gone down the path he had done. If he was a Tory MP, we'd all be agreeing. And he'd have probably got away with it as well.
Personally, I think Huw Edwards is getting off very lightly in all this and hiding behind his mental health issues.
I am far from impressed with his conduct.
I am far from impressed with his conduct.
Farehamseagull
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The absolute state of this post
clapham_gull
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Point one slightly disingenuous. If you have reported behaviour that is illegal, it doesn't really matter whether you have reported it as illegal.
Whether the Sun decides the quote the actual law to the readers is irrelevant.
The newspaper found themselves on a difficult situation. Firstly it was working on second hand evidence, secondly it knew at the time of publishing the young man had denied the details of story but thirdly for most of it's history it had published pictures on page 3 that are now deemed illegal because the models were sometimes under 18 and in Sam Fox's case 16.
The Sun (just like the BBC) is burdened by it's history. In the face of the Daily Mail which has completely overtaken it in terms of influence, it found itself in receipt of a story and rushed it through to publish.
The reality for the Sun (which all internally will know) is the Daily Mail online has generated more income from the story.
This has probably damaged them commercially with advertisers. Readers are quite happy to suck up any old rubbish with a political viewpoint and the advertisers generally don't care.
But the day of the "sting" is a bit more nuanced. Whilst sucking up all the juicy details, I'd imagine the general public are generally uncomfortable with family lives being ruined which is why the Sun have backtracked. They are worried now about their reputation.
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If you say so. I'm merely recounting what a media legal chap was saying on 5Live between 9 and 10pm, when I was out for a run. Whether his "point one" is correct or not, I think his "point two" is why Edwards won't go after The Sun in court, which was the only point I was responding to.
Needless to say, I didn't visit The Sun website before nor during this story, and have no intention of doing so in the future. So, I have no first-hand knowledge of what specific wording they may have used.
GT49er
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Should that not be 'legal' age? The age of consent is 16 for gay sex too isn't it?
Not saying Huw Edwards comes out of this with any credit - but has he actually done anything illegal?
Having sex is legal at 16, procuring or making pornographic images of anyone under 18 is illegal.
I’m not saying he’s done that.
Doc Lynam
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Maybe that’s why The Sun stopped doing this after using 16 and 17 year olds for decades. Feels slightly hypocritical of the sun to take this moral high ground in defence of the story.
For anchoring Royal Weddings, Funerals and a Coronation with dignity and gravitas as well as being the leading journalist on a flagship news program?
The shock is some get paid that A WEEK for kicking a bag of wind around in a Middle Eastern state that beheads homosexuals and kills journalists.
The London Economic reckons GBeebies are paying Rees Mogg 32k a month.
Jacob Rees-Mogg's 'eye-watering' hourly rate for GB News work revealed
Judging by the latest political polls, perhaps it is for the best that Jacob Rees-Mogg has a back-up plan in place.
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He‘s got a long and serious history of mental health issues. The last few days have triggered it again Is my understanding.
If you judge the sun solely by the standards of their coverage of hillsborough then you would see them as evil people out to destroy innocent people all the time. Fair enough. That’s certainly the Liverpool view.
Some take a broader view. taking a broader view doesn’t amount to a defence of them btw, particularly Hillsborough.