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How will you feel if Scotland votes YES?

How will you feel if the Scots vote YES?


  • Total voters
    124
  • Poll closed .








wellquickwoody

Many More Voting Years
NSC Patron
Aug 10, 2007
13,624
Melbourne
How would I feel? Chuffed to bleeding bits!

In reality I do not care either way, what I do not want is increased devolution powers. They can buxxer off and look after themselves, or live under the same rules as the rest of us, the most important being concerning tax and the NHS.
 


wellquickwoody

Many More Voting Years
NSC Patron
Aug 10, 2007
13,624
Melbourne
Anyone watching the BBC debate from........somewhere in Scotland (sorry)? George Galloway is doing an impression of Boy George, brilliant!
 


beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
35,325
mixed bag really. on one hand, if they want to go cheerhio then, on the other we have been through alot and built alot together. in the short term, its a bloody nuisance, the negotiations for the seperation will dominate government for a couple of years, and then theres all sorts of issues like Scottish MPs that will be elected next May and have to resign within a year or so. in the long term, we the English dont have to support them anymore, even absorbing their debt and losing oil revenue we'll be better off. though above all, i'd feel a bit sorry for the majority that got taken in by Salmond, because he's selling them a lie: they wont thave the £, they wont be in EU, they will lose businesses and hundreds of thosuands of jobs, and wont be able to afford to deliver the socialist dream he has.

...We have always been progressive peoples historically, I do wonder if we have it in us to revolutionise politics again.

we do progress socially, but not so much politically. avoided revolution for 350 odd years despite the rest of the world have a go. a Catalonian friend today observed how we let our politicans drive debate, rather than the people. we dont really rise up and march en masse for widely popular issue. small groups do, but not the whole nation.
 




Danny-Boy

Banned
Apr 21, 2009
5,579
The Coast
give it another 100 years and I think you'll see alot of change with more and more regions voting for there own autonominous powers

Quebec
Catalonia
Basque Region
Belgium (wallons & flemish)
I doubt Iraq will even exist anymore

I think Scotland will vote yes,but for England i don't think it will be felt that much,whereas in Scotland i think the transition could be a painful one

Ten years ago I asked Ming Campbell at an LD fundraising dinner whether given the history of the countries "created" by Woodrow Wilson after WW1, Iraq itself was a viable nation state. He replied "That's a very interesting question.." but refused to say whether it had a future.

Given the support we have given the Kurds, how can we refuse now to recognise their right to exist as a separate nation? They should have been given one in 1919.
 


dangull

Well-known member
Feb 24, 2013
5,113
We are only a small island in the big wide world. We have done great things together 2 world wars etc. Together we are stronger, seperated we are weaker. I guess i'm sounding like David Cameron.
 


Eeyore

Colonel Hee-Haw of Queen's Park
NSC Patron
Apr 5, 2014
23,628
Goodbye Scotland = goodbye labour : followed by goodbye Europe

The first two concern me, not so much the last. I would not want to live in a country with a continuous right-wing ideology.
 




Notters

Well-known member
Oct 20, 2003
24,869
Guiseley
An independent Scotland would make an exit from the EU for the rest of us far more likely and for that reason I would be ABSOLUTELY GUTTED and I'm surprised more people don't feel the same.
 


nicko31

Well-known member
Jan 7, 2010
17,622
Gods country fortnightly
Goodbye Scotland = goodbye labour : followed by goodbye Europe

There's an ironary that Labour thought by an election "bribe" of evolution to the Scots and Welsh would get them back from the wilderness and it did.

Whilst I would take no pleasure from it, what goes around comes around and could put them into the wilderness once again
 








nicko31

Well-known member
Jan 7, 2010
17,622
Gods country fortnightly
Gutted tbh,british soldiers have fought side by side and died side by side,sometimes for good reasons and sometimes for bad,the english did not send them off it has always been a case of them and us,class and power separate people not cultures(at least in great britain) GREAT FOOTBALL RIVALS BUT GREAT COMRADES TOO.

Couldn't agree more, Britain without Scotland won't be as Great...
 


edna krabappel

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 7, 2003
47,222
Scotland is bigger in population and size. It's a different thing entirely.

There are as many people living in Yorkshire as there are in Scotland (about 5.3 million). Should they get a referendum too?
 




Gullflyinghigh

Registered User
Apr 23, 2012
4,279
Honestly, I don't know. There are so many different things that are currently unknown if the result is 'yes' that it's hard to judge what sort of impact it'll actually have.
 


Tricky Dicky

New member
Jul 27, 2004
13,558
Sunny Shoreham
An independent Scotland would make an exit from the EU for the rest of us far more likely and for that reason I would be ABSOLUTELY GUTTED and I'm surprised more people don't feel the same.

Just as I think Scotland leaving would be bad for them, us leaving the EU would be dreadful for us
 


Spicy

We're going up.
Dec 18, 2003
6,038
London
give it another 100 years and I think you'll see alot of change with more and more regions voting for there own autonominous powers

Quebec
Catalonia
Basque Region
Belgium (wallons & flemish)
I doubt Iraq will even exist anymore

I think Scotland will vote yes,but for England i don't think it will be felt that much,whereas in Scotland i think the transition could be a painful one

Surprising you can spell autonomous but not know the difference between "there" and "their". Will that change in the next 100 years???:)
 


yxee

Well-known member
Oct 24, 2011
2,521
Manchester
Where does it end though. Why not independance for Sussex ?

Scotland is a unique case because they are a separate country that formed a union with England. That union is easier to break than to split an existing country into separate parts.
 




Spicy

We're going up.
Dec 18, 2003
6,038
London
I think we are better together as a United Kingdom so will be bit gutted.
 


*Gullsworth*

My Hair is like his hair
Jan 20, 2006
9,351
West...West.......WEST SUSSEX
Trouble is if they voted no nearly half the Scottish populate would feel more apathy at the prospect of power coming from Westminster. The momentum even in defeat would be for the yes camp to bolster support for another vote at another time. It won't go away, the result will only encourage the yes voters to convince the no voters to vote for independence and a solution which takes the central powers from *the english*
 


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