I agree. But the OP was pretty clear:
Win two of our four remaining games and I have egg all over my face (and I won't care because the progress I crave will have been achieved). Surely that's WAY more satisfying than possession stats or xG?
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[Albion] Have Albion progressed this season?
- Thread starter Bozza
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I agree. But the OP was pretty clear:
Win two of our four remaining games and I have egg all over my face (and I won't care because the progress I crave will have been achieved). Surely that's WAY more satisfying than possession stats or xG?
Justice
Dangerous Idiot
Exactly, those who have been more cautious about Potter and results and especially after a loss get told it’s a long term project and not look at short term results. Funnily enough when the team wins we get olive branches, Potters a genius, best Albion manager ever etc etc...If that’s not reactionary I don’t know what is
The team has improved no doubt about it until the play gets to the final third then we become hesitantly unpredictable. The argument about a better striker is valid to a point although there are hardly any goals scored from the midfield to help the team which in turn heaps more pressure onto the forwards. Maupay has looked low on confidence in front of goal for a while now with no evidence of improvement. The majority of supporters blame him entirely for our lack of goals which also isn’t helping I genuinely feel for the lad.
To suggest with a shiny new forward we will suddenly propel into the top ten is also a tad reactionary until we can score goals from different areas we will always struggle to an extent. Had we lost to Leeds we would be panicky to say the least so it’s definitely not all roses in the garden just yet. Some improvement this season although nowhere near enough to get carried away.
maresfield seagull
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- May 23, 2006
- 2,247
GB I think you may be looking at it from a rather narrow perspective regards progression
I understand your angle about points and league position being a good indicator
But I’m sure you would agree Or maybe not That the squad is progressively improving
As is the playing style As a unit our youngsters are gaining experience and improving overall
Which to me bodes well
They wouldn’t be on my list of factors........or if they were, they wouldn’t carry a lot of weight.....
You’re statement kind of validates my thoughts.......whether we’ve progressed or not doesn’t hinge on the 4 remaining games (where we will probably see odd results anyway). The number of points we get of course does depend on those games. If it was simple as being based on number of points, there wouldn’t need to be a thread/question at all as it would be a simple matter of fact
SeagullinExile
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We're a much better team than last season.
We'll finish above Palace on 42 points
We'll finish above Palace on 42 points
maresfield seagull
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- May 23, 2006
- 2,247
Exactly, those who have been more cautious about Potter and results and especially after a loss get told it’s a long term project and not look at short term results. Funnily enough when the team wins we get olive branches, Potters a genius, best Albion manager ever etc etc...If that’s not reactionary I don’t know what is
The team has improved no doubt about it until the play gets to the final third then we become hesitantly unpredictable. The argument about a better striker is valid to a point although there are hardly any goals scored from the midfield to help the team which in turn heaps more pressure onto the forwards. Maupay has looked low on confidence in front of goal for a while now with no evidence of improvement. The majority of supporters blame him entirely for our lack of goals which also isn’t helping I genuinely feel for the lad.
To suggest with a shiny new forward we will suddenly propel into the top ten is also a tad reactionary until we can score goals from different areas we will always struggle to an extent. Had we lost to Leeds we would be panicky to say the least so it’s definitely not all roses in the garden just yet. Some improvement this season although nowhere near enough to get carried away.
Agreed more goal s from around the team are definitely required
But overall an improvement rather than a regression
Exactly, those who have been more cautious about Potter and results and especially after a loss get told it’s a long term project and not look at short term results. Funnily enough when the team wins we get olive branches, Potters a genius, best Albion manager ever etc etc...If that’s not reactionary I don’t know what is
The team has improved no doubt about it until the play gets to the final third then we become hesitantly unpredictable. The argument about a better striker is valid to a point although there are hardly any goals scored from the midfield to help the team which in turn heaps more pressure onto the forwards. Maupay has looked low on confidence in front of goal for a while now with no evidence of improvement. The majority of supporters blame him entirely for our lack of goals which also isn’t helping I genuinely feel for the lad.
To suggest with a shiny new forward we will suddenly propel into the top ten is also a tad reactionary until we can score goals from different areas we will always struggle to an extent. Had we lost to Leeds we would be panicky to say the least so it’s definitely not all roses in the garden just yet. Some improvement this season although nowhere near enough to get carried away.
Don’t think too many are getting carried away, but I don’t agree that getting less than 41 points means no progression (and neither do you......)
Again yes-ish.
What we have is potential. Better playing style and better players should equal better results or what's the point? If that turns up next season then happy days. But this season we've only really needed to focus on 14th to 17th when looking at the table.
B-right-on
Living the dream
I was wondering if the poll or NSC was broken. Only 11% treading water and ZERO % regression.
Then I caught up with the thread and relaxed. The normal minority of posters spouting their biased crap in a last gasp desperate bid to remain 'right' despite all evidence to the contrary.
Great to see that almost 90%of fans are able to see the truth when it slaps them in the face (or on the pitch).
Looking forward to getting back to the Amex next season.
UTA.
In general, the mood music surrounding the answer to a question like this is often very much dependent on the latest performance and result.
Yes, I can see a positive shift in the centre of gravity; however ask this question in the aftermarth of a very assured 2-0 victory over Leeds and the general sense of satisfaction with overall progress will be a good deal higher than if we had just stunk out Bramall Lane and lost one nil to the worst PL side in recent memory. And that was only 8 days ago.
Yes, I can see a positive shift in the centre of gravity; however ask this question in the aftermarth of a very assured 2-0 victory over Leeds and the general sense of satisfaction with overall progress will be a good deal higher than if we had just stunk out Bramall Lane and lost one nil to the worst PL side in recent memory. And that was only 8 days ago.
Shame that some of fans still resist praising him...even if the fare on the pitch is a MASSIVE improvement to all but the blinkered or those in denial
Get the impression that if next season we yield more wins and finish say 12th, the last remnants of the naysayers will begrudgingly say GP is doing ok. But with some qualifications to that.
A strange state of affairs.
Aftertiming again? Or maybe you can let us all know the url of the threads and articles you posted in December pointing out how all this would end?
It’s absolutely not all about the final league position in a single season for me......there are far more moving parts/other factors to consider. The league position, for example, says nothing about what the next set of talent emerging from the academy is like, how the U23s have performed, how our loanees are doing etc etc etc. It’s almost as though we have fans that don’t understand ‘long term plan’ or ‘strategy’
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Justice
Dangerous Idiot
This, it’s been a frustrating season with a mixed bag of high and low points. It seems we can’t discuss our football team anymore without the constant Potter lovers or haters theme creeping into every thread which is a shame. Progress has been made although we are still very much unpredictable as the last 10 days have shown.
Thompson720
Well-known member
Our match day attendance has been abysmal this season.
On that alone, absolutely not.
On that alone, absolutely not.
Just watching Spurs destroy Sheffield United on MOTD2.
But they're Spurs.
Yeah, we beat Spurs 1-0.
If ever another game summed up our season.......
But they're Spurs.
Yeah, we beat Spurs 1-0.
If ever another game summed up our season.......
Silverhatch
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In two thirds of the pitch - huge improvement.
At the sharp end... we’d probably be chasing West Ham if we’d converted 33% of the chances we’ve missed.
At the sharp end... we’d probably be chasing West Ham if we’d converted 33% of the chances we’ve missed.
Gull Over Manchester
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- May 13, 2013
- 6
What a ridiculous post, anybody who doubts we've made any progress this season doesn't understand football. In the 34 yrs I've watched BHA this is easily, by a country mile, the best football we've ever played.
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B-right-on
Living the dream
Nah mate, avoided posting in most of the football threads, full of idiots posting crap that's been proven to be totally wrong and still today, despite every indication to the contrary, hold onto their views. Why argue with someone who is so entrenched in their view that they cannot see any other point of view. Got better things to do, like watch my grass grow.
You seem to have taken it personally.
albionalex
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It’s absolutely not all about the final league position in a single season for me......there are far more moving parts/other factors to consider. The league position, for example, says nothing about what the next set of talent emerging from the academy is like, how the U23s have performed, how our loanees are doing etc etc etc. It’s almost as though we have fans that don’t understand ‘long term plan’ or ‘strategy’
It isn't solely about the final league position for me either and I appreciate progress isn't always linear.
But Guinness Boy summed it up well, for me.