[News] Hamas/Gaza/Israel

[Zeberdi]

London march on Sunday was well attended

Speeches in Hyde Park made by Corbyn and a moving speech by Holocaust survivor Stephen Kapos.

That interview literally brought tears to my eyes. He reminded me so much of my father.

I urge anyone to watch that who thinks there can not be Jewish people like myself, who utterly condemn Netanyahu’s punishing war on the Palestine people and who are not being antisemitic when we criticise the Israeli government but humanitarian. An empathy with the victims of genocide and oppression for obvious reasons.

 

[perth seagull]

 

[:J)]

Interview with Israeli spokesman David Mencer by Norway Broadcasting Corporation’s Yama Wolasmal:



(Incidental and completely unrelated news snippet: David Mencer used to be a Director of Labour Friends of Israel)

Meanwhile, when some British journalists try to do their jobs with any kind of integrity - they are seemingly relieved of their positions. Odd that.

 

[borat]

Interview with Israeli spokesman David Mencer by Norway Broadcasting Corporation’s Yama Wolasmal:



(Incidental and completely unrelated news snippet: David Mencer used to be a Director of Labour Friends of Israel)

Meanwhile, when some British journalists try to do their jobs with any kind of integrity - they are seemingly relieved of their positions. Odd that.

Absolutely shocking how easily and frequently Israeli officials spew lies to cover up their heinous crimes. The fact that David Mencer was director of Labour Friends of Israel tells you all you need to know about Labour and its warped relationship with Israel.

On your second point, there seems to be quite a few journalists being fired for asking inconvenient questions - other than the ones you mentioned, Mehdi Hasan was fired from MSNBC for seemingly 'inconvenient' reporting.

He set up his own media company https://www.youtube.com/@zeteo_news

 

[rippleman]

London march on Sunday was well attended

Speeches in Hyde Park made by Corbyn and a moving speech by Holocaust survivor Stephen Kapos.

Thank you for posting this. What a brave, eloquent fella. Hopefully that will put the couple of apologists for the extreme right-wing state of Israel back in their box.

You have, however, mentioned the "C word" so we can expect HWT along shortly for a rant

 

[rippleman]

Absolutely shocking how easily and frequently Israeli officials spew lies to cover up their heinous crimes. The fact that David Mencer was director of Labour Friends of Israel tells you all you need to know about Labour and its warped relationship with Israel.

On your second point, there seems to be quite a few journalists being fired for asking inconvenient questions - other than the ones you mentioned, Mehdi Hasan was fired from MSNBC for seemingly 'inconvenient' reporting.

He set up his own media company https://www.youtube.com/@zeteo_news

Might explain why Starmer refused to call for a ceasefire for so long. After the UN called for a ceasefire, he couldn't really hold off much longer could he?

 

[aolstudios]

Might explain why Starmer refused to call for a ceasefire for so long. After the UN called for a ceasefire, he couldn't really hold off much longer could he?

You're aware that the last dozen plus ceasefire offers have been refused by Hamas?
Also that their leaders have declared that Oct 7th will continue "forever"
That there was a ceasefire in place on October 7th

 

[borat]

Thank you for posting this. What a brave, eloquent fella. Hopefully that will put the couple of apologists for the extreme right-wing state of Israel back in their box.

You have, however, mentioned the "C word" so we can expect HWT along shortly for a rant

Not likely. The poster you mentioned has me on ignore - I think I might have committed the unforgiveable offense of criticising Starmer.

 

[jackanada]

You're aware that the last dozen plus ceasefire offers have been refused by Hamas?
Also that their leaders have declared that Oct 7th will continue "forever"
That there was a ceasefire in place on October 7th

The thing about offers is they need to be reasonable.
Can I have your house for £10?

 

[aolstudios]

The thing about offers is they need to be reasonable.
Can I have your house for £10?

Well, they were mostly brokered by Egypt and/or Qatar.
Have you had a look at any of them?

 

[Westdene Seagull]

Interview with Israeli spokesman David Mencer by Norway Broadcasting Corporation’s Yama Wolasmal:



(Incidental and completely unrelated news snippet: David Mencer used to be a Director of Labour Friends of Israel)

Meanwhile, when some British journalists try to do their jobs with any kind of integrity - they are seemingly relieved of their positions. Odd that.

David Mencer needs a swift dispatch. How any decent human being can claim that, despite providing evidence, everything their enemy says is lies but we're meant to believe that the murderous Israeli government and genocidal IDF only speak the truth but have no need to provide any evidence is beyond me. The IDF are literally no better than Hamas.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

Well, they were mostly brokered by Egypt and/or Qatar.
Have you had a look at any of them?

No assault on Rafah seems a reasonable want from Hamas ( and ironically the US ) - and one Israel isn't prepared to give. You'd think they'd want the remaining hostages back but it seems not.

 

[armchairclubber]

Not everyone is sitting on their hands

 

[aolstudios]

Not everyone is sitting on their hands

I think he's more in favour of cutting them off

 

[Zeberdi]

I think he's more in favour of cutting them off

What a nauseating man he is - talking in capital letters, over demonstrative and annoyingly hyperbolic but he does make some very valid points

 

[armchairclubber]

What a nauseating man he is - talking in capital letters, over demonstrative and annoyingly hyperbolic but he does make some very valid points

Personally I think there's been so much apathy, wilful ignorence, sitting on the fence and in our own democracy visions of Starmer as Saviour for several long months that I find it refreshing that another generation may not feel the same.

 

[aolstudios]

Personally I think there's been so much apathy, wilful ignorence, sitting on the fence and in our own democracy visions of Starmer as Saviour for several long months that I find it refreshing that another generation may not feel the same.

"Refreshing". Yeah, they said that about Trump.
& Johnson

 

[Zeberdi]

Personally I think there's been so much apathy, wilful ignorence, sitting on the fence and in our own democracy visions of Starmer as Saviour for several long months that I find it refreshing that another generation may not feel the same.

Maybe you haven’t spent enough time on this thread then - no one sitting on the fence here or thinking Starmar is the great white hope for the Palestinians - one side or the other, and not a lot of wilful ignorance about what is happening in Gaza either. I didn’t mean the actually content of his speech was necessarily nauseating, just the delivery. But I don’t know the man and as you say, he is young, and projecting a rebellious, revolutionary persona is a rite of passage. It seemed a little contrived that’s all.

 

[armchairclubber]

Maybe you haven’t spent enough time on this thread then - no one sitting on the fence here or thinking Starmar is the great white hope for the Palestinians - one side or the other, and not a lot of wilful ignorance about what is happening in Gaza either. I didn’t mean the actually content of his speech was necessarily nauseating, just the delivery. But I don’t know the man and as you say, he is young, and projecting a rebellious, revolutionary persona is a rite of passage. It seemed a little contrived that’s all.

Spent enough time on this thread? Is there a level you must reach to have an opinion? My comments weren't aimed at this thread in particular, you needn't be so protective.

I think I've probably spent too much time on it btw!

 

[aolstudios]

What a nauseating man he is - talking in capital letters, over demonstrative and annoyingly hyperbolic but he does make some very valid points

"Valid points"?
The guy is about as Antisemitic as it is possible to be. Hourly...