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Not in my name either.So the UK shot down some drones eh?
WTF? Israel doesn’t need our help. How about defending the people of Ukraine who actually need it?
It’s a disgrace. No military action by the UK in the Middle East will be in my name. None.
I agree with much of this - absolutely but I also think Iran are also fully aware of Israel’s defensive capabilities which came into their own last - particularly the so called ‘Iron Dome’ over Israel which can intercept many high arc flying rockets (especially the smaller short range rockets that have been launched by Hamas and Hezbollah) and it’s Arrow 3 system an incredibly advanced aerial defensive system (the first in the world) which can intercept ballistic missiles and other warheads at very short notice - I’m not convinced Iran had hoped to achieve anything more than spread fear and terror of potential escalation with such a limited retaliation.Obviously opinion as I don’t have a personal line into Iran.
I very much foubt that Iran wants all out war in the Middle East, as it’s a war they couldn’t win. What they want is a position of power and standing which giving Israel a bloody nose would have done. If you chuck 300 drones at Israel you would expect significant damage as a result, otherwise why do it? Strategically it doesn’t make sense. There are loads of foreign journalist’s in Israel so it’s not something you can hide.
Netanyahu is an a basket case and in an ideal world would be consigned to the bin with Putin, Trump etc. The west need to sit on him.
So the UK shot down some drones eh?
WTF? Israel doesn’t need our help. How about defending the people of Ukraine who actually need it?
It’s a disgrace. No military action by the UK in the Middle East will be in my name. None.
Post 9 11 hard to imagine WW3 not involving islam to some degree and Iran is the closest thing to a muslim super power and important to know seen as a protective power like the US in the west. If Iran is attacked with severe threat of collapse hell breaks loose terror cells all over Europe. Lets face it Ukraine war is big deal but no one is starting a world war over the fate of the Ukrainian people.
Iran Israel different beast US would be involved in no time. So much would be invested in this war the likes of China or Russia can do anything they want in their regions and its all on.
WW3 always starts with Iran vs others? That's a crazy statement.Post cold war post 9 11 WW3 always starts with Iran vs Israel or US
IMO, Netanyahu is as much liability as Putin is - they both have expansionist aspirations, don’t care for their own people and are more than happy to take all of us to the brink of regional/even global war to achieve their objectives.
Israel always has, and always will do what is good for Israel.... it cares not for the toothless UN, it also cares not whether Iran or any of it's terrorist proxies attempt more of these attacks, Israel will deliver retribution at the time of its choosing.Is this opinion or fact? Do you have sources for this?
Not to see that attack for what it is, and what provoked it, is dangerously underestimating the seriousness of the situation. This is no longer a conflict of proxies - Israel made sure of that by directly attacking an Iranian embassy.
Btw - At the moment, we only have Israel’s word for it that there were no damaged buildings or, ‘fire on the ground’ - that information as expected would be controlled by the Israeli propaganda machine.
I do agree that the fact the US and UK/Jordan helped Israel out, gives them a stronger platform for urging restraint/a ceasefire in Gaza. However, let‘s see how Netanyahu responds now to Iran - he’s ignored the US and every UN resolution so far with his actions in Gaza, so I’m not holding my breath he is going to start listening now.
- Israel is threatening to attack Iran - has done for years - Israel is a nuclear power and has on more than one occasion in the past threatened Iran with nuclear strikes - that will almost certainly trigger a worldwide conflict.I disagree. Israel do not threaten to use nuclear weapons to wipe out the whole world.
It’s laughable that anyone could think Hamas was capable of ‘removing’ Israel ‘entirely’ - but yes, prior to 1987 the Hamas Charter was to destroy Israel that became somewhat modified in 2017 when Hamas declared an acceptance of the creation of a Palestinian state along the 1967 lines ie for Isreal to be confined to the original 1947 borders drawn up by the Balfour partition.Hamas (from Palestine) attacked Israel, killing about 1,200 people.
Hamas have stated that their goal is to remove Israel entirely
Netanyahu has certainly said Palestinians should be ‘evacuated’ from Gaza and Palestine should be a part of Israel - that is the policy of the Lukid Party and has been for years. It is the policy of the Israeli Ambassador to the UK too, it was the policy of Trump.Israel, for its part, has not said the want to take over the whole of Palestine.
Not sure what this has to do with what I said, it does not make Netanyahu any less a threat to world peace or danger to the Palestinian people.Compare that with Russia/Ukraine.
Ukraine did not attack Russia, and were never going to attack Russia.
I think you need to do a bit more background reading on Netanyahu and the Religious Zionists he is in bed with tbh - he has unequivocally stated that Palestine has no right to exist and intends to claim the occupied territories into a Greater Israel - Trump’s Peace Plan went some way to beginning that process.Ukraine has no intention of ever harming Russia.
Russia has stated that Ukraine has no right to exist, and intends to take the whole country for itself.
Excellent summaryI disagree. Israel do not threaten to use nuclear weapons to wipe out the whole world. While I'm against Israel's actions in Palestine, there are also differences between that and Russia's war against Ukraine:
Hamas (from Palestine) attacked Israel, killing about 1,200 people.
Hamas have stated that their goal is to remove Israel entirely.
Israel, for its part, has not said the want to take over the whole of Palestine.
Compare that with Russia/Ukraine.
Ukraine did not attack Russia, and were never going to attack Russia.
Ukraine has no intention of ever harming Russia.
Russia has stated that Ukraine has no right to exist, and intends to take the whole country for itself.
This ^Israel always has, and always will do what is good for Israel.... it cares not for the toothless UN, it also cares not whether Iran or any of it's terrorist proxies attempt more of these attacks, Israel will deliver retribution at the time of its choosing.
Irans attack last night was an abject failure, Iran and it's allies are only mildly successful when it bombs or kidnaps civilians or military personnel in cowardly attacks in public places.... it presents itself as a serious military entity... take that brave attack on those very dangerous Philippino sailors the other day,... what a courageous attack that was.
Israel could, with a bit of effort, defeat Iran without putting a single boot on Iranian soil if it so desires, but Israel also, does not want to destroy anyone, they just want to live in peace.... but sadly, the militant Islamic world are not interested in peace.... just the annihilation of the nation of Israel and all it's Jewish citizens.
Israel also, does not want to destroy anyone, they just want to live in peace....
The west need to stop arming him.Netanyahu is an a basket case and in an ideal world would be consigned to the bin with Putin, Trump etc. The west need to sit on him.
I said at the beginning of the Ukraine war that the UK and NATO should have put boots on the ground (although if rumours are correct UK Special Forces are there helping Ukraine). Afterall, this is the defence of Europe. The war could have well have ended by now if NATO hadn't been so cowardly.So the UK shot down some drones eh?
WTF? Israel doesn’t need our help. How about defending the people of Ukraine who actually need it?
It’s a disgrace. No military action by the UK in the Middle East will be in my name. None.
You mean apart from at least a couple of Israeli government ministers who have stated publically that they want all Palestinians to leave Gaza so Israelis can settle there ( and I would guess there are other minsters who support this views but won't state it in public ) ? Or indeed the Jewish settlers who want all Palestinians to leave the West Bank and are using murder, violence and intimidation to achieve said aim ? Brings a slightly different meaning to the phrase "from the river to the sea".Israel, for its part, has not said they want to take over the whole of Palestine.
- Israel is threatening to attack Iran - has done for years - Israel is a nuclear power and has on more than one occasion in the past threatened Iran with nuclear strikes - that will almost certainly trigger a worldwide conflict.
Israel threatened to launch nuclear war on Iran - UN envoy
During his UNGA speech, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu asserted that “Iran must face a credible nuclear threat,” a statement the PMO later retracted.www.jpost.com
Russia has made threats of using strategic nuclear weapons but it is a ridiculously hyperbolic response to say these have been against the ‘whole world’ or are a threat of intercontinental nuclear war.
China and Iran, two major powers aligned to Russia and India are also an allies so certainly wouldn’t be included.
Russia may have made nuclear threats but it’s been largely bluster and threats of nuclear strikes if NATO forces attack Russia and are an existential threat to Russia.
The US and UK have the same longstanding threat if Russia attacks the US/Nato with nuclear weapons - it’s call MAD (for a reason)
It’s laughable that anyone could think Hamas was capable of ‘removing’ Israel ‘entirely’
You mean apart from at least a couple of Israeli government ministers who have stated publically that they want all Palestinians to leave Gaza so Israelis can settle there ( and I would guess there are other minsters who support this views but won't state it in public ) ? Or indeed the Jewish settlers who want all Palestinians to leave the West Bank and are using murder, violence and intimidation to achieve said aim ? Brings a slightly different meaning to the phrase "from the river to the sea".
He’s made that impossible at the moment unfortunately for Gazans - Israel is now vulnerable in a way it wasn’t a few weeks ago - Attacking an Embassy (which are regarded as sovereign territory) is an attack on the Country to whom it belongs. Iran had every right to respond, when Israel bombed their embassy in Damascus and killing embassy staffers. There has been a seismic shift in the ME and after years of proxy wars between Iran and Israel, the gloves came off last night when Iran responded by firing 300 drones and missiles into Israel. Exactly what Netanyahu wanted IMO.The west need to stop arming him.
Wrong - I have posted numerous information in this thread to this effects with plenty of source material to back it up.I don't think that it's Israel's policy to take over the whole of Palestine (feel free to provide a link if it is).
Then that’s not Russia threatening to launch a nuclear strike against the whole world is it
- honestly what a ridiculous discussion.
Please stop comparing Russias war on Ukraine with Israel’s war on Gaza/ME - seriously what on earth is the point?
There are over 4,000 posts here, so I'm not going to go through them to find something you claim. If you want to backup your claim, do so. If you don't, then don't.Wrong - I have posted numerous information in this thread to this effects with plenty of source material to back it up.