www.middleeasteye.net
Try posting a source that exists to promote anything other than Jew hateIsraeli troops withdraw from al-Shifa hospital, leaving piles of dead bodies
Two week siege of Gaza's largest medical complex ends in destruction of all buildings and hundreds of deaths
The barbarity of the Israeli army in full view following withdrawal from Al Shifa hospital. Any politician that backed/supported Israel should live in shame until the day they pass.
apnews.com
BBC ok for you ? Or does the BBC hate Jews too ? https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68705765
I agree that reporting on the war in Gaza/the humanitarian tragedy is not anti-Semitic ( the MEE is actually a Qatari funded media outlet so yes, it is not likely to be impartial but I see no reason to disbelieve it’s content which as you say has been backed by MSM) but I think it is really important to distinguish between ‘Israel’ the Country and the right wing Government of Israel when talking about what the world ‘hates’.
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Fair point, well made. Change my 'Israel' comment to 'Israeli government and the IDF' and it's more accurate.I agree that reporting on the war in Gaza/the humanitarian tragedy is not anti-Semitic ( the MEE is actually a Qatari funded media outlet so yes, it is not likely to be impartial but I see no reason to disbelieve it’s content which as you say has been backed by MSM) but I think it is really important to distinguish between ‘Israel’ the Country and the right wing Government of Israel when talking about what the world ‘hates’.
This may seem like semantics but I think it is prudent in the current climate to stress that the World’ does not hate ‘Israel‘ per se but rather most countries are increasingly antithetical to Netanyahu’s Government and it’s response to the massacre as well as the far right wing policies of settlement expansion and refusal to recognise the rights of Palestinians to be free of the Occupation. There are Palestinians, other Arabs as well as Jews and Christians living in Israel, many of whom don’t support Netanyahu’s theocratic reforms, nor his war in Gaza. I have Jewish relatives, friends and Christian associates in Israel (as well as in the States) - they know full well how it is Netanyahu that is destroying any credibility and reputation Israel might have in the international stage but this is not the State of Israel itself. Israel is more than it’s Government.
Admittedly, there is deep prejudice rooted in Israeli society against Palestinians as there is against Israelis by many Palestinians living in the Occupied territories and most Israelis are only primarily against Netanyahu’s conduct of the war because it has failed to secure release for the hostages rather than for concern about Gazans but they also are increasingly seeing how Netanyahu is making Israeli’s security in the ME very precarious. None more so since 7/10. There is also deep rooted prejudice by many Jews towards Arabs amongst the population of Jews outside Israel too, a minority of whom really believe they have a God-given right to the whole lands of Palestine. However, one doesn’t forget 75 years of suicide bombings, rocket attacks and constant stone throwing. One doesn’t forget one of the darkest blots on European history that forced the repatriation of thousands of Jews to Palestine. Overcoming these cultural prejudices and holocaust memories that still cling to the Jewish psyche like the smell of fear will take decades, maybe even generations now if at all.
The prejudice against Jews in the Sunni Arab populations of Gaza and the West Bank also run deep - but this also unsurprising after 75 years of border conflicts since Israel, unilaterally declared herself a State back in 1948 then invaded and occupied the rest of Palestinian territory in 1967 after the 6 Day War. Subsequent blockades and apartheid policies followed resulting in years of humanitarian hardship and oppression with punishment beatings and missile attacks if any Palestinian dared protest. Because of this, even if Netanyahu is deposed, reconciliation and a peace process will be very difficult indeed following the massacre by Hamas and the response to it by his regime. However, it won’t be helped by throwing the baby out with the bath water - I think it is important to condemn, even hate the current regime in Israel but not Isreal itself - it is a beautiful Country with some truly amazing people.
(Sorry for another long post !
No, my emails are much shorter than his.PS - are you Paul Barber ?
It won't matter if Netanyahu gets replaced.... even if replaced by a peace loving left leaning pacifist who grants all the wishes of the Palestinian movement,.... Hamas and/or similar will still regroup and start once again to build tunnels, import arms, fire missiles indiscriminately into random Israeli suburbs, blow themselves up on buses, knife police or security personnel on the streets..... and who will suffer most?.... those ordinary Palestinians who just want to peacefully coexist.... although, I expect that to be the minority....most Muslim folk want Jews eliminated.And now the extreme right wing dictatorship ie the Israeli State is arresting the relatives of the Hamas hostages for protesting that Israel is continuing to persecute its war ie indiscriminate slaughter of Palestinians rather than negotiate a ceasefire to facilitate the release of those hostages.
Hopefully, someone with a gun (I care not whether Israeli or Palestinian), will take out Netanyahu quicksticks and put a stop to this nightmare.
Israeli hostages’ relatives arrested at protest as Gaza talks break down
Family members and activists blocked a main road in Tel Aviv, demanding more be done to free them.www.bbc.co.uk
The only people doing any ‘eliminating’ at the moment is Israel’s government/the IDF from what I can see. But yes, maybe you are right in your implications and genocide of ‘most Muslim folk’ is the only way to resolve a 75 year old conflict between two peoples fighting over the rights to a tiny strip of land and the right to self-determination for both protagonists. Seriously, I despair of people who think violence, oppression and destruction of the means upon which innocent people depend to survive and thrive is a way to harmonising human relationships and understanding of other’s social, cultural and humanitarian needs.
You mean like the leader of the Labour Party? I wholeheartedly agree.Israeli troops withdraw from al-Shifa hospital, leaving piles of dead bodies
Two week siege of Gaza's largest medical complex ends in destruction of all buildings and hundreds of deaths
The barbarity of the Israeli army in full view following withdrawal from Al Shifa hospital. Any politician that backed/supported Israel should live in shame until the day they pass.
Indeed - this situation has highlighted the cowardice and lack of a moral backbone present in both main parties.
news.sky.com
amp.theguardian.com
You really struggle with comprehension don't you.... off you pop.The only people doing any ‘eliminating’ at the moment is Israel’s government/the IDF from what I can see. But yes, maybe you are right in your implications and genocide of ‘most Muslim folk’ is the only way to resolve a 75 year old conflict between two peoples fighting over the rights to a tiny strip of land and the right to self-determination for both protagonists. Seriously, I despair of people who think violence, oppression and destruction of the means upon which innocent people depend to survive and thrive is a way to harmonising human relationships and understanding of other’s social, cultural and humanitarian needs.
On the contrary, it is you that does not seem understand the nature of what is happening in Gaza nor events and conditions over the past 75 years have led to up this to war - and it is you that is posting hate engendered comments like ‘most Muslim folk want Jews eliminated’ - you have no foundation for such a sweeping, stereotypical statement.
Please mate for your own good don't engage with this guy. Hopefully the mods can do something about his participation in this thread
