French far right National Front 'routed' in key vote

[Kuipers Supporters Club]

Haha what?! Con + UKIP = 50%

Labour + SNP + Green + PC= 39.6%

 

[Deleted member 22389]

Will vote for a party that represents my views, reducing immigration, protecting our borders and getting out of the EU.

 

[Soulman]

Will vote for a party that represents my views, reducing immigration, protecting our borders and getting out of the EU.

Exactly.

 

[daveinprague]

Clairvoyant are you, sorry to disappoint you but i will not be voting Tory.....

You really do love to vote for minority parties, If no UKIP presence, and negating Tories, and Labour. The elections in your locale will be difficult for you I guess. Not wasting your vote at all. :-D

Anyway, Im going to bed. Night

 

[Soulman]

You really do love to vote for minority parties, If no UKIP presence, and negating Tories, and Labour. The elections in your locale will be difficult for you I guess. Not wasting your vote at all. :-D

Anyway, Im going to bed. Night

My vote, my choice, i live here.

 

[JC Footy Genius]

Will vote for anyone who stops the far left gaining any momentum in this country just like the French voted tactically to stop the far right. What's good enough for monsieur goose .....

 

[pastafarian]

You really do love to vote for minority parties, If no UKIP presence, and negating Tories, and Labour. The elections in your locale will be difficult for you I guess. Not wasting your vote at all. :-D

The only way UKIP will cease to exist is if UK vote to leave the EU,their job will be done so to speak.

Good to see,you and others are now recognising this as a possibility.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

you dont consider 28% of the popular national vote to be substantial? not sure if you've deliberatly misunderstood that comment, the meaning or in denial. one cant ignore well over a quarter of the population supporting a particular strong way of thinking.

No. I do not consider 28% with a 1% lead substantial. Far from it. In fact this couldn't be any clearer given yesterday's out come could it? You really do not understand the French system do you?

Please go and have a read up on previous French elections especially the first vote and then what happens in the second.

 

[daveinprague]

The only way UKIP will cease to exist is if UK vote to leave the EU,their job will be done so to speak.

Good to see,you and others are now recognising this as a possibility.

Not really im just going along with the theme of the current chat about the tossers. I believe they will disappear up their own arses, most likely some financial scandal

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

The point being made was the underlying issues that have driven voters towards the FN remain. Yes the voting system helps block further electoral success but it would be extremely complacent to think this could not change.

Rightly or wrongly the French second vote system protects against minority parties. It will take a hell of a jump for Le Penn to actually win. Or a complete change in the voting system. I can't see any reason for either of these to change any time soon. But I agree, never say never.

 

[daveinprague]

My vote, my choice, i live here.

Pretty funny response from the person who posed the question. No need to get precious.
My vote, my choice, and I dont live there. Cool eh?

 

[Simster]

Only because one party pulled out and they urged all the people to vote for Sarkozy party, not very democratic is it, otherwise the results would have been different.
Is this how democracy works in the EU these days?

In my opinion it is a better system than here precisely because of this. If you have two bland parties and one abhorrent one, it stands to reason that the public ought to be able to vote AGAINST the party they find least palatable. You'd think that in the next term, the two bland parties might then pick the more rational policies of le FN so as to appease a bulk of the hefty chunk of people who feel disenfranchised enough to have voted that way.

Our situation leads to a minority dictating the wishes of the majority. This is not good. For example, in Northern Ireland, there are cases where two parties sometimes split the vote on one side of the sectarian divide letting in one party on the other.

 

[Deleted member 22389]

In my opinion it is a better system than here precisely because of this. If you have two bland parties and one abhorrent one, it stands to reason that the public ought to be able to vote AGAINST the party they find least palatable. You'd think that in the next term, the two bland parties might then pick the more rational policies of le FN so as to appease a bulk of the hefty chunk of people who feel disenfranchised enough to have voted that way.

Our situation leads to a minority dictating the wishes of the majority. This is not good. For example, in Northern Ireland, there are cases where two parties sometimes split the vote on one side of the sectarian divide letting in one party on the other.

Thank you, that explains things a lot better to me.

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

Pretty funny response from the person who posed the question. No need to get precious.
My vote, my choice, and I dont live there. Cool eh?

Typical leftys if you can't beat them join hands and find someone to attach yourself too , must be an on going concern for you
regards
DR

 

[daveinprague]

Typical leftys if you can't beat them join hands and find someone to attach yourself too , must be an on going concern for you
regards
DR

Ongoing concern for me? haha

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

Ongoing concern for me? haha

laugh all you want ,you know its the truth
regards
DR

 

[Greyrun]

It was the left that was routed losing seven of the 13 regions reducing them to 5.Although the National Front did not do as well as expected they tripled there councillors.Bad election for the socialists.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

It was the left that was routed losing seven of the 13 regions reducing them to 5.Although the National Front did not do as well as expected they tripled there councillors.Bad election for the socialists.

Nice spin

 

[The Birdman]

Great result and two more this week will make my Christmas .

 

[Buzzer]

It's nice to see the FN getting beaten but I'm a little confused that the OP thinks that in the UK, politics should be about principles with a party standing firm on its ideals/policies as agreed by its members then presenting them to the electorate and living or dying by the results whereas in France it's all about electability, compromise and manipulating the political system to achieve an outcome agreeable to most.