[Football] Finishing the Championship

[SeagullinExile]

If both Leagues don't finish then the obvious idea is start with 22 or 23 teams next season. Then have 4 teams relegated for the next 2 or 3 seasons.

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

If the Championship does play to the finish then this issue will be relevant to Championship relegation/League 1 promotion. Not that I expect the press or PL fans to care about that.

 

[SAC]

If the PL season is completed, I don't see how any club can refuse relegation because they don't like the way the Championship teams have been promoted. How the Championship sorts out who gets promoted is their problem. This really is Norwich clutching at straws.

 

[SeagullinExile]

If the PL season is completed, I don't see how any club can refuse relegation because they don't like the way the Championship teams have been promoted. How the Championship sorts out who gets promoted is their problem. This really is Norwich clutching at straws.

Respectfully, I think your missing the point. If the prem plays out the season, and Championship doesn't, the relegated team will be at a massive dis-advantage come next season. Having played football all summer, when their opponents haven't.

 

[hans kraay fan club]

If both Leagues don't finish then the obvious idea is start with 22 or 23 teams next season. Then have 4 teams relegated for the next 2 or 3 seasons.

Why is it ‘obvious’? What is the logic behind promoting Leeds, on the basis of ‘probably heading for promotion’, but NOT relegating Norwich, by the same metric? Makes literally zero sense.

 

[SeagullinExile]

Why is it ‘obvious’? What is the logic behind promoting Leeds, on the basis of ‘probably heading for promotion’, but NOT relegating Norwich, by the same metric? Makes literally zero sense.

Im talking IF both leagues dont finish playing. You cant have one finishing and one not. It'd be a major dis-advantage to any team relegated for next season.

 

[SAC]

Respectfully, I think your missing the point. If the prem plays out the season, and Championship doesn't, the relegated team will be at a massive dis-advantage come next season. Having played football all summer, when their opponents haven't.

True but the ex PL teams aleays have a massive advantage due to parachutte payments.

 

[hans kraay fan club]

Im talking IF both leagues dont finish playing. You cant have one finishing and one not. It'd be a major dis-advantage to any team relegated for next season.

I know. You didn’t answer my question. What is your logic, behind promoting Leeds and West Brom, because they look likely to go up, while not relegating Norwich who are odds on to go down?

 

[SeagullinExile]

True but the ex PL teams aleays have a massive advantage due to parachutte payments.

Granted. But, finances don't help with players fitness levels.

And who's to say the parachute payments will be the same as before? We just don't know. The loss of income has got to hit somewhere.

 

[SeagullinExile]

I know. You didn’t answer my question. What is your logic, behind promoting Leeds and West Brom, because they look likely to go up, while not relegating Norwich who are odds on to go down?

I never mentioned Leeds & WBA. Just promote 2 or 3. How they choose them i dont know though!

Just an idea anyway!

 

[Garry Nelson's Left Foot]

That's a great idea BUT you are still going to have a problem with the teams that aren't in the top six now. You could make an argument given how tight it is that you could go down as far as Birmingham in 16th as having a chance of making a late run for the play offs.

There is always one team that comes from no where to nick a play off place every season and I'm sure all of those team will argue that.

Yeah, there's no easy way round it but you've got to draw the line somewhere and this way would at least replicate some of the possible movement between teams.

Unless they finish the season there are going to be pissed off teams.

 

[giveusfalmerplease]

in the PL what about a relegation play-off for teams in 14th-19th with Norwich auto relegated as they were never going to get enough points to be safe.

 

[drew]

I never mentioned Leeds & WBA. Just promote 2 or 3. How they choose them i dont know though!

Just an idea anyway!

Bizarre!!!

You might as well draw names out of a hat then. The general consensus, which I don't agree with, is to put Leeds and WBA into the premier league yet they haven't earned that right yet!!

If one of the leagues fails to finish then I see no moral obligation to relegate or promote anyone!!! Agree entirely with what Norwich are suggesting as I pointed out below on Sunday!!!

Just another thing to throw into the mix. Haven't heard any news about the Championship plans for finishing the season. Seems there is some that want a restart and some want points per game to decide.

If the EPL unilaterally steam on and finish the season but the EFL don't, what happens then about relegation? If the EFL finish on points per game, do they have any moral right to promotion to the EPL? Already rumours circulating that league One and Two will not restart.

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

in the PL what about a relegation play-off for teams in 14th-19th with Norwich auto relegated as they were never going to get enough points to be safe.

Chelsea v Boro all over again but behind closed doors so none of the mindless violence of that day.

 

[Washie]

If both Leagues don't finish then the obvious idea is start with 22 or 23 teams next season. Then have 4 teams relegated for the next 2 or 3 seasons.

But who gets promoted? There are still 9 games to go, and mathematically down to 14th can catch leeds, so there will be issues with that as well. It isnt like the prem where only one team can mathematically catch Liverpool.0

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

So what happens if they finish the league and the PL refuse promoted teams entry into the league......

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

in the PL what about a relegation play-off for teams in 14th-19th with Norwich auto relegated as they were never going to get enough points to be safe.

Better still just relegate Norwich and have a behind closed doors playoff between Leeds and West Brom to see who replaces them !

 

[Arthur]

Yeah, there's no easy way round it but you've got to draw the line somewhere and this way would at least replicate some of the possible movement between teams.

Unless they finish the season there are going to be pissed off teams.

Agreed, guess you could just extend your idea downwards?

Great idea though......can you now resolve promotion and relegation for the rest of the leagues please?

 

[Jim in the West]

There are over 100 matches still to be played in the Championship, and not a whole load of TV money at stake. In fact, for quite a few clubs it'll almost certainly cost more to play than not. I'm not sure there is the same appetite (motivation/££££) for the Championship to complete (as there is for the EPL). Personally, I can't see the Championship being completed - they could well decide placings on a Points/Game basis (no change to placings - everyone has played 37 games).

 

[SeagullinExile]

But who gets promoted? There are still 9 games to go, and mathematically down to 14th can catch leeds, so there will be issues with that as well. It isnt like the prem where only one team can mathematically catch Liverpool.0

As I said before, I don't know! But, if you take relegation from the PL off the table, deciding promotion from the Championship would be a little easier maybe?

Plus, 42 or 63 more games next season has got to be good financially for the PL?

I just don't think you can finish one league & not the other without causing major problems if relegation is involved.

I think we can all agree its a bit of a cluster**** though!