English anthem.

[The Large One]

I like Jerusalem but do not consider it to be English.

Why not?

It was written by an Englishman about England.

 

[BensGrandad]

Why not?

It was written by an Englishman about England.

So why call it Jerusalem not England.

 

[enigma]

The trouble with you beard is that you can't except other peoples opinions that don't suit your own.Lefties are the most racist people going.They hate Britishness

ACCEPT not EXCEPT. Learn the f***ing language before you criticise anybody else.

 

[dougdeep]

Grow the beard back TLO, you looked scary in the photos.

 

[NMH]

Give Britain back to the Germans, Swedes and Romans. They all won it fair and square, and they could chuck out the scum chav element and that awful 'Royal Family' lot who revel in the poncey idea that Brits have that they are special and should be kept swimming in caviar and ride horseys (they are foreigners anyway!) They can find some other crawly corner of the world that gives a shit for them.
That lot can kiss my white (_!_).



Jerusalem, definitely. It means 'God's haven/home'. He wouldn't have these idols before him, he would have SMOTE those royal wankers ages ago.

 

[The Large One]

So why call it Jerusalem not England.

Somewhat depressingly, I knew you'd ask that.

Blake's Jerusalem is a poem which questions whether a young Jesus Christ ever set foot in England. And if he did so then (at the time it was written), what would he make of England?

This is what Wikipedia says...

Interpretation
The text of the poem was inspired by an apocryphal story which narrated that Jesus, while still a young man, accompanied Joseph of Arimathea to the English town of Glastonbury. Blake's biographers note that he believed in the legend; however, the poem's theme or subtext is subject to much sharper debate, probably accounting for its popularity across the philosophical spectrum.

As a Romanticist paean the poem has come under criticism. Consequently some see it as unsuitable as an English national anthem, and its reference to a foreign city as puzzling to other nations. It is unlikely that Blake intended such a literal interpretation, however, or that most who sing and love the song believe in such a literal reading of the lyrics; legends contain important truths to many people.

The Christian Church in general and the English Church in particular have long used Jerusalem as a metaphor for heaven. It is the city in the sky, as it were, where love is universal and all is well. The hymn is sung on Jerusalem Sunday -- a day set aside to celebrate the holy city -- in Anglican Churches throughout the world and even in some Episcopal Churches in the U.S. Also sung is the hymn 'Jerusalem the Golden with milk and honey blessed... I know not oh I know not what joys await me there....' etc.

The term "Satanic Mills", which entered the English language from this poem, is most often interpreted as referring to the early industrial revolution and its destruction of nature. Indeed, the term is often used with this connotation up to the present.



In other words (and this is how I read it), 'til we have built Jerusalem in England's green and pleasant lands' is a wish, a yearning, for better times - to build a higher state of being within England.

 

[Barrel of Fun]

So why call it Jerusalem not England.

The text of the poem was inspired by an apocryphal story which narrated that Jesus, while still a young man, accompanied Joseph of Arimathea to the English town of Glastonbury. Blake's biographers note that he believed in the legend; however, the poem's theme or subtext is subject to much sharper debate, probably accounting for its popularity across the philosophical spectrum.

As a Romanticist paean the poem has come under criticism. Consequently some see it as unsuitable as an English national anthem, and its reference to a foreign city as puzzling to other nations. It is unlikely that Blake intended such a literal interpretation, however, or that most who sing and love the song believe in such a literal reading of the lyrics; legends contain important truths to many people.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/And_did_those_feet_in_ancient_time

 

[FalmerforAll!**]

GOSBTS

 

[The British National Party]

ACCEPT not EXCEPT. Learn the f***ing language before you criticise anybody else.

Wish you'd tell the immigrants the same thing, Labour have insisted we are all equal so English is a third rate language just like the citizens.

 

[Barrel of Fun]

You are very misguided Oceanic and seem to paraphrase and trot out rubbish that has been purported by the media.

I would be interested to know where you live and what first hand experience you have of the 'white/native' population being ignored.

 

[The Large One]

Wish you'd tell the immigrants the same thing, Labour have insisted we are all equal so English is a third rate language just like the citizens.

It's only you that uses third-rate English.

Your opinions are meaningless because you don't know what you're saying. You don't have your own mind. You are a 'copy and paste politician'. You're an ignorant, thick moron. You're a racist cunt. You are scared of non-whites. You are scared of everything which doesn't conform to your pathetic tiny parameters. You haven't got a clue what you're saying because you're being told to by someone else. Someone else who is also thick. And scared. And no-one cares about you. Or ever did.

It's not looking very good for you, is it?

 

[Gully]

All this talk of WASPs makes me laugh, I guess that makes me a WACA (White Anglo Celtic Atheist).

 

[NMH]

So why call it Jerusalem not England.

Jeru Salem = God Home, or haven.

'England' is derived from 'Anglo Land'

Angles, Saxons and Jutes all came from Denmark and Northern German lands.

'Anglo-Saxons' was a term that defined the Germanic race that had taken over in Britain (the neighbours called them 'Sasana', later 'Sassanachs') from the Saxons that remained in Germany. Within our shores, after the 8th Century, this race of Anglo-Saxons named themselves the 'Angli', then 'Anglish' or 'English'.

 

[enigma]

Wish you'd tell the immigrants the same thing, Labour have insisted we are all equal so English is a third rate language just like the citizens.

I wish you'd just learn the language.

 

[Gully]

All these people campaigning to reduce the number of immigrants allowed into the UK might be better complaining about the standard of English taught in our schools, many of them have a poorer command of it than those whom they vilify.

 

[Pork Sword]

It's only you that uses third-rate English.

Your opinions are meaningless because you don't know what you're saying. You don't have your own mind. You are a 'copy and paste politician'. You're an ignorant, thick moron. You're a racist cunt. You are scared of non-whites. You are scared of everything which doesn't conform to your pathetic tiny parameters. You haven't got a clue what you're saying because you're being told to by someone else. Someone else who is also thick. And scared. And no-one cares about you. Or ever did.

It's not looking very good for you, is it?

He is the only one on here telling it like it is. Contrary to popular belief just because we believe that immigration into this country should be controlled and reserved for skilled people who can actually bring something into the country, does not make us racists.

Look at the crime rates and look at those who commit those crimes. You will see a greater percentage of immigrants per % doing the wrong. The facts do not lie. Argue agaist that then mate.

 

[DJ Leon]

People who vote 'Labour' are racists.

New Labour’s ceaseless quest for the unattainable utopia of equality and diversity ensures that “race” and “culture” are topics never far from the news headlines.

The latest diktat from Blair’s regime emanates from Labour Community Secretary Ruth Kelly who wants to reduce the numbers of aging white males in town halls in a bid to make councils more “representative”.

New figures from the government reveal that the “average councillor” is a 58-year-old white male and Ministers have today unveiled an initiative to attract more young, ethnic minority and female citizens into town halls.

A survey for the government's Improvement & Development Agency (IDA) found that only one in 200 councillors was black, and only 2.7% Asian.

Dismissive of the fundamentally democratic idea that voters in borough and district councils currently cast their mark for the best party and/or the best personality to represent their local concerns, Labour’s latest diktat implies that political parties contesting elections will need to draw up short lists based on the demographics of the borough/ward or constituency.

In so doing Labour is meddling, not only in the internal election procedures of political parties, but the wider issue of local council representation. The proposals can be seen as an attack on all political parties and on the thousands of thoroughly decent and hard working councillors from the Old Gang trio of Labour-Conservative-Liberal Democrats and other smaller parties who are doing what they can for their constituents under circumstances which are made increasingly difficult as a direct consequence of Treasury demands.

Given the current far-reaching review into funding of political parties it is not beyond the bounds of devious Labour thinking that political parties contesting local elections must draw up lists based on gender, age and ethnicity rather than the best person for the job, as a condition of State funding.

Did you write that all by yourself?

Of course you didn't the spelling was too good - http://awesternheart.blogspot.com/2007_02_04_archive.html

 

[coventrygull]

It's only you that uses third-rate English.

Your opinions are meaningless because you don't know what you're saying. You don't have your own mind. You are a 'copy and paste politician'. You're an ignorant, thick moron. You're a racist cunt. You are scared of non-whites. You are scared of everything which doesn't conform to your pathetic tiny parameters. You haven't got a clue what you're saying because you're being told to by someone else. Someone else who is also thick. And scared. And no-one cares about you. Or ever did.

It's not looking very good for you, is it?

Might be looking good for the thousands of thick people who will be voting BNP Thursday

 

[DJ Leon]

And why we're on this matter then how about this....

It is a bit of Scotland in the English Midlands but it is too white for the Home Office. Once home to a large British Steel plant the Northamptonshire town of Corby is now criminally neglected by New Labour and a further insult to injury to the good people of the town has been delivered by the Prison Service.

In an already horrendous month for job losses within Northamptonshire, 150 more are to go, this time in Corby, because the employees are too white! One of the factors behind a Prison service clerical centre moving from Corby to Leicester, with the loss of 150 jobs, is because the city boasts a "diverse workforce".

In a response to a letter sent to her, Ann Beasley, one of Home Secretary John Reid's top civil servants, said the town had too many white British residents. Under the heading "key influencing factors", the letter states: "Our ability to attract a more diverse workforce - 93.7 per cent of the population of Corby are white British, compared to 59.6 per cent in Leicester".

This is an insult not only to the people of Corby, but to the people of Britain as a whole suggesting that a 'diverse workforce' could do the job any better than one that is predominately white.

The level of unemployment in Corby is higher than than the national average and the local development corporation, Catalyst Corby, along with the East Midlands Development Association, is doing everything it can to bring jobs into the area. Much of the local community feel betrayed by the Labour Party that they helped to vote into power.

New Labour = sorry, you're white.

And what's the source for this bit of heavy-weight thinking?

Oh, it's the BNP's Bebo site - http://www.bebo.com/Profile.jsp?MemberId=3798111950

 

[The British National Party]

You are very misguided Oceanic and seem to paraphrase and trot out rubbish that has been purported by the media.

I would be interested to know where you live and what first hand experience you have of the 'white/native' population being ignored.

I'm of to bed, got an early start tomorrow. so going to climb those wooden steps unlike the scum who claim free housing etc.