England vs Montenegro

[T soprano]

I wish England would stop constantly letting me down, I really want to get behind them but gave up years ago. The missus has come home and put glee on.... Its actually better.

Not qualifying for 74 world cup
Not qualifying for 78 world cup
Not winning a game in euro 80
Drawing 0-0 with Germany & Spain in 82 world cup & eliminated
Not Qualifying for 84 euros
Losing to the hand of god 86
Not winning a game in Euro 88
Losing pen shoot out in semis 90
Awful performances in Euro 92
Not qualifying for USA 94
Losing on pen shoot out to Germany 96
Losing on pen shoot out to Argentina 98

Not turning up v Brazil in quarter final 2002
Losing pen shoot out to Portugal 2004
Losing pen shoot out to Portugal 2006
Getting stuffed by Germany 4-1 2010

WAKE UP & SMELL THE COFFEE England have been letting us down ever since 66

 

[aldershot village]

Cleverley ,Smalling and Wellbeck if they played for Wigan they wouldn't get a sniff for England .No doubt they'll blame the pitch the very same player's that will say as a kid we played on the street with a tennis ball blah blah blah simply not good enough .Mr Southgate your right small nations like Montenegro should pre qualify.

 

[The Modfather]

Unfortunately we had nobody to replace Smalling and Lescott who were both poor especially in the air. I think that he should have brought Lampard on for Cleverly.

Lampard should have been on for the last 20 minutes at the very minimum

 

[kevo]

Ashley Young really is awful, isn't he?

 

[aldershot village]

Not qualifying for 74 world cup
Not qualifying for 78 world cup
Not winning a game in euro 80
Drawing 0-0 with Germany & Spain in 82 world cup & eliminated
Not Qualifying for 84 euros
Losing to the hand of god 86
Not winning a game in Euro 88
Losing pen shoot out in semis 90
Awful performances in Euro 92
Not qualifying for USA 94
Losing on pen shoot out to Germany 96
Losing on pen shoot out to Argentina 98

Not turning up v Brazil in quarter final 2002
Losing pen shoot out to Portugal 2004
Losing pen shoot out to Portugal 2006
Getting stuffed by Germany 4-1 2010

WAKE UP & SMELL THE COFFEE England have been letting us down ever since 66

We beat Spain at Euro 80 .

 

[Mellor 3 Ward 4]

Lampard should have been on for the last 20 minutes at the very minimum

Agree with that.

 

[T soprano]

We beat Spain at Euro 80 .

Yes I stand corrected and a few hours later Italy & Belguim I think played out a 0-0 game to both beat England in the table by a point

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Hi everyone. Hope you all had a fun evening. I went to the cinema and saw Sightseers; a rather amusing British film. I'm now going to make some toast then go to bed.

 

[vegster]

Hi everyone. Hope you all had a fun evening. I went to the cinema and saw Sightseers; a rather amusing British film. I'm now going to make some toast then go to bed.

Cracking film,fantastic ending, enjoy the toast, you chose well

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Cracking film,fantastic ending, enjoy the toast, you chose well

Totally agree. The UK is the daddy when it comes to bleak, black comedy.

 

[Freddie Goodwin.]

I didn't bother with the game but I did hear we were 1 up.

Take it it all went pear shaped again, with our highly paid Premiership Superstars?

 

[Farehamseagull]

That was a good result for an average side which is what we are these days.

Why do our fans feel the need to moan constantly about the national side rather than supporting them? I'm a realist, I don't expect us to win every game as I know we are not good enough but I still support them.

 

[One Love]

That was a good result for an average side which is what we are these days.

Why do our fans feel the need to moan constantly about the national side rather than supporting them? I'm a realist, I don't expect us to win every game as I know we are not good enough but I still support them.

To be fair we did have our 2 best recent performers out and no centre backs.

 

[Publius Ovidius]

Wellbeck was fecking awful!

They should have played the same team that dicked San Marino....I thought woy was going to have a clear out and bring in youngsters? that idea went west

 

[One Love]

More of a worry for me is that the manager is not good enough.

It was obvious we were coming apart at the seams for a while before the goal and a better manager would have changed things.

 

[Farehamseagull]

Wellbeck was fecking awful!

They should have played the same team that dicked San Marino....I thought woy was going to have a clear out and bring in youngsters? that idea went west

What like Lampard and Defoe?!

Roy has got a really tough job as we just don't have the players. Good result.

 

[Scunner]

Can't believe some of the ridiculous comments and sentiment on this result, really mindless stuff from a populace born and bred on red top driven prejudice.

Collectively we do not deserve a successful national unit because of the unrealistic expectations we set our team, and by extension ourselves. If any other leading European team had gone to Montenegro and got that result tonight we wouldn't even have raised an eyebrow, yet we lambast our own.

Does anyone realistically expect that Montenegro would not have a 10 or 15 minute spell? If you do, have you ever been to watch a football match? Do you really think any team has a divine right to victory? Really? Then you are as deluded as that jerk Roy Keane...who demonstrated clearly why he was a great player and terrible, terrible manager very clearly tonight.

Anyone who truly understands football will see that Hodgson is doing a sound job; he's imposed a fluid passing style on the team and it will take time to bear fruit. He presents extremely well in press conferences and he delivers confidence and team spirit to the players.

We have only dropped 2 points in the group so far, at home to Ukraine. Draws away against the better teams in qualifying groups are totally fine, because if you win the home match in the sub-set of two game ties you win the group.

England have not been beaten in a qualifying game for 26 matches, and are an improving team since the Euros.

Over-reactions like the ones demonstrated here are corrosive and if I were an England player and read them I'd think 'f*ck that' why should I show passion for this bunch of whining fools? Many have, as Gary Neville confirmed.

Support England, be constructive in criticism, or p!ss off is all I can say...

 

[Snarkey5]

utter shambles, woeful pathetic performance, absolute disgrace to the badge. no commitment pride or passion. its bloody hard ordering a mcdonalds ffs hear england played well tonight

 

[Pavilionaire]

Wrong. We drew in Poland too, so have now dropped 6 points in the group, and we haven't beaten any of the 3 decent sides.

The reality is that John Terry and Rio Ferdinand know this squad isn't up to it. Jo Hart is the only regular to break through since WC 2010 that makes a meaningful contribution. I expect that we'll sneak through somehow, but it will be clseand won't be pretty.

 

[Scunner]

Wrong. We drew in Poland too, so have now dropped 6 points in the group, and we haven't beaten any of the 3 decent sides.

The reality is that John Terry and Rio Ferdinand know this squad isn't up to it. Jo Hart is the only regular to break through since WC 2010 that makes a meaningful contribution. I expect that we'll sneak through somehow, but it will be clseand won't be pretty.

Drawing away is not dropping points, if you win each home tie you've taken four points to their one. Making qualification a near mathematical certainty assuming 6 points each against Moldova and San Marino. Hence only 2 points dropped against Ukraine.

John Terry and Rio Ferdinand are corrosively bad influences for different reasons and this looks like more of a team since they've departed; good riddance.