England squad vs Egypt announced

[Mellotron]

This will be my last post on this thread. If anyone's interested in how this argument pans out, they can search the old threads for the previous four times we've had it...

Crouch's goals have not all bee against Andorra, have they? Last time I saw England live was the qualifier against Ukraine at Wembley. Crouch played very well, and scored that night.

He IS a good OPTION. I know that, Capello knows that, and you know that.

Heskey is first choice alongside Rooney, and rightly so, but we have to have options, particularly for the eventuality that ROONEY is missing for any reason.

Completely agreed. My annoyance is with the large number of numbnuts who somehow STILL don't rate Heskey and see what he brings to the team, and then quote Crouch's scoring record as evidence that he is a better player.

Genuinely though, Crouch has never troubled a good defence for Pompey or Spurs has he? Rarely, if at all.

There was an article where Capello basically admitted he didn't want to use Crouch, and saw him as a last resort. If Ashton/Owen were firing, Crouch would be nowhere near the squad, the paucity of back up is the reason he is in contention.

I think he's an OK option, but a waste of a squad space once we're through the group stages. Again, paucity of quality back up strikers at the moment.

 

[Marshy]

Capello is a clown i have said it all along.

His " you will only get in the side and squad if your playing and in good form" talk is all just bollocks.

Heskey,Crouch and Cole have hardly kicked a ball of late let alone find the net and both are included ahead of Zamora and Agbonlahor...it amazes me.
Zamora played yesterday so clearly isnt injured.

Whats the point of 3 big lumps like Crouch Heskey and Cole ? Surely only 2 at most, go for the pace of Agbonlahor at least to mix it up a bit. And Zamora deserves a chance ahead of Crouch,Cole and Heskey at present.

Just how many more goals and assists does Zamora have to score and create before he gets a go i would be thinking if i were him....

Ive said it all along. Capello is a clown.

And thats just the front line, dont get me started about the midfield...

 

[The Wizard]

Capello is a clown i have said it all along.

His " you will only get in the side and squad if your playing and in good form" talk is all just bollocks.

Heskey,Crouch and Cole have hardly kicked a ball of late let alone find the net and both are included ahead of Zamora and Agbonlahor...it amazes me.
Zamora played yesterday so clearly isnt injured.

Whats the point of 3 big lumps like Crouch Heskey and Cole ? Surely only 2 at most, go for the pace of Agbonlahor at least to mix it up a bit. And Zamora deserves a chance ahead of Crouch,Cole and Heskey at present.

Just how many more goals and assists does Zamora have to score and create before he gets a go i would be thinking if i were him....

Ive said it all along. Capello is a clown.

And thats just the front line, dont get me started about the midfield...

I SINCERELY hope you are joking.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Capello is a clown i have said it all along.

His " you will only get in the side and squad if your playing and in good form" talk is all just bollocks.

Heskey,Crouch and Cole have hardly kicked a ball of late let alone find the net and both are included ahead of Zamora and Agbonlahor...it amazes me.
Zamora played yesterday so clearly isnt injured.

Whats the point of 3 big lumps like Crouch Heskey and Cole ? Surely only 2 at most, go for the pace of Agbonlahor at least to mix it up a bit. And Zamora deserves a chance ahead of Crouch,Cole and Heskey at present.

Just how many more goals and assists does Zamora have to score and create before he gets a go i would be thinking if i were him....

Ive said it all along. Capello is a clown.

And thats just the front line, dont get me started about the midfield...

Crouch has been playing quite a bit recently, He hasnt started the last two games for spurs but has played most games before that.

Cole has been injured and has still scored more goals in the league than Zamora, his hold up play is better and he did pretty well for England in his last game

See above posts regarding Heskey

 

[Marshy]

I cant be bothered to trawl through posts of people who keep trying to tell me that "Heskey or Cole or Crouch brings other things to the side...."

Heskey or Cole certainly dont bring goals do they....none of them are in any sort of form !...not even close to being in form... we have 3 english strikers in from Rooney Defoe and Zamora thats it...its a no brainer he should have been given a punt ahead of Crouch Heskey or Cole. Probably Cole as hes just returned from a lengthy lay off and has looked well of the pace in teh couple of games he has played since returning.

Is Heskeys Crounch or Cole old up play really better than Zamoras ? is it ? is it really. Because you must be seeing something different to me if you do.
On top of that Zamora has been playing up front on his own for 90% of the season at Fulham who dont create the hosts of chances a side like Villa or Spurs would create for Crouch and Heskey.


Capello is no different o any other manager we had had of late. He has his favorites and is going to pick them regardless.

 

[The Wizard]

I cant be bothered to trawl through posts of people who keep trying to tell me that "Heskey or Cole or Crouch brings other things to the side...."

Heskey or Cole certainly dont bring goals do they....none of them are in any sort of form !...not even close to being in form... we have 2 english strikers in from Rooney and Zamora thats it...its a no brainer he should have been given a punt ahead of Crouch Heskey or Cole. Probably Cole as hes just returned from a lengthy lay off and has looked well of the pace in teh couple of games he has played since returning.

Is Heskeys Crounch or Cole old up play really better than Zamoras ? is it ? is it really. Because you must be seeing something different to me if you do.
On top of that Zamora has been playing up front on his own for 90% of the season at Fulham who dont create the hosts of chances a side like Villa or Spurs would create for Crouch and Heskey.


Capello is no different o any other manager we had had of late. He has his favorites and is going to pick them regardless.

I don't think he has favourites he is just sticking with what has worked in qualifying which is fair enough. He's different because he's the best thing to happen to England in yonks.

 

[Mellotron]

Ive said it all along. Capello is a clown.

And thats just the front line, dont get me started about the midfield...

You are priceless.

Did you say it when Capello won La Liga?

Did you say it when he destroyed Barca 4-0 in the Champions League final?

Did you etc...

So...9 wins in 10 not good enough for you? By your standards we clearly need to be winning every single trophy we go in for, yes?

 

[Marshy]

I don't think he has favourites he is just sticking with what has worked in qualifying which is fair enough. He's different because he's the best thing to happen to England in yonks.

This man came out and said he wouldnt have favorites and would pick on form and fitness.
He clearly isnt doing that.

Form and goals from your strikers etc means nothing to you between now and the world cup clearly ?

Its the form of our strikers that will ultimately decide how we do at the world cup, and id be absolutely delighted if Heskey Crouch and Cole started smashing them in on a regualar basis between now and the end of the season like like Zamora has been doing since the off this season.

Far to many people have got carried away with our qualifying campaign against in my opinion poor opposition.
We havent beaten one of the top sides under Capello.....

 

[The Wizard]

This man came out and said he wouldnt have favorites and would pick on form and fitness.
He clearly isnt doing that.

Form and goals from your strikers etc means nothing to you between now and the world cup clearly ?

Its the form of our strikers that will ultimately decide how we do at the world cup, and id be absolutely delighted if Heskey Crouch and Cole started smashing them in on a regualar basis between now and the end of the season like like Zamora has been doing since the off this season.

Far to many people have got carried away with our qualifying campaign against in my opinion poor opposition.
We havent beaten one of the top sides under Capello.....

Germany and Croatia aren't top teams then? you keep going on about Zamora but he has still only scored 8 goals in the league which is less than Cole EVEN THOUGH Cole has been injured for the majority of the time. Heskey has done a good job with Rooney in the qualifying so as if he is going to drop him.

I can't be bothered with you anyway, I think your either fishing, retarded OR Scottish/Welsh/Irish, not sure which one.

 

[Mellotron]

We beat Germany and outplayed Holland at theirs. Spain and Brazil are just BETTER than us, regardless of which players we play, so no shame there.

We are playing like roughly the 4th/5th best team in the world, which is about right.

Heskey is never going to start "banging them in", but he is ESSENTIAL to the team.

 

[Mellotron]

I'm genuinely beginning to wonder whether Marshy is a wind up.

 

[Hatterlovesbrighton]

Our strking options for the WC are sorted.

Rooney and Heskey start then Defoe comes on for Heskey around 65-70 minutes.

Crouch is the wildcard you play when its going tits up and you need something different for a goal.

 

[Marshy]

Croatia and Germany are pale shadows of the sides they once were you know that.

Heskey is NOT essential to the team the sooner people realise that then our chances of actually doing something will increase greatly.

You have to take a look at players when they are in form, if not then when ?
And you have to leave players out when they are not playing and not in form.

I personally would be playing Rooney and Defoe up front. I dont buy into the garbage about we need a big physical prescence up front for Rooney to play off, he dosent get that at Utd. Berbatov is quite tall but he certainly dosent mix it up with the defenders does he.
Id go with our best and sharpest strikers in Rooney and Defoe and Have Heskey Zamora and Agbonlahor as our Back up, Michael Owen if he gets a run of games and some form prior to the World Cup.

Tell me the big physcal type striker like Heskey, Spain, Brazil, France, Portugal have or any top side national side has ...

 

[The Wizard]

I give up. clueless.

 

[Marshy]

I give up. clueless.

More like you cant give me a decent answer to back up any of your thoughts.

 

[Mellotron]

Croatia and Germany are pale shadows of the sides they once were you know that.

Heskey is NOT essential to the team the sooner people realise that then our chances of actually doing something will increase greatly.

You have to take a look at players when they are in form, if not then when ?
And you have to leave players out when they are not playing and not in form.

Tell me the big physcal type striker like Heskey, Spain, Brazil, France, Portugal have or any top side national side has ...

That would be Euro 2008 finalists Germany?

I'm guessing you didn't see Heskey playing very well YESTERDAY then?

If it ain't broke don't fix it. Heskey and Rooney upfront together WORKS. Bring Defoe on when it isn't working. Simple.

 

[The Wizard]

More like you cant give me a decent answer to back up any of your thoughts.

I have said what I want to in previous posts I cba to waste my time with you, I think your views are twattish.

 

[simmo]

Croatia and Germany are pale shadows of the sides they once were you know that.

What the Germany that got through to the final of the last major competition they entered for and the semi final of the one previous to that. Yeah a pale shadow.

 

[Marshy]

That would be Euro 2008 finalists Germany?

I'm guessing you didn't see Heskey playing very well YESTERDAY then?

If it ain't broke don't fix it. Heskey and Rooney upfront together WORKS. Bring Defoe on when it isn't working. Simple.

I saw him play sunday in the Cup Final and he was woeful. I hardly knew he was playing.

Look. When England last did well in the World Cup...1990...

Linekar and Beardsley. Euro 96...Shearer and Sheringham.

Clever players with movement, and goal scorers, not the Heskeys Crouch or Coles of this world.

 

[Marshy]

I have said what I want to in previous posts I cba to waste my time with you, I think your views are twattish.

Because that dont agree with yours. You cant see past the end of your nose i doubt.

Thats twice in previous posts you have resorted to name throwing just because i have an opinion that differs to yours.
Its not even an extreme point of view i have. Im sure there a many people who agree with me.