It does feel that way - but actually there's a surprising number. http://www.howstat.com/cricket/statistics/Matches/MatchFollowOn.asp?FollowOn=T&Result=Won - including almost 30 involving England.
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It does feel that way - but actually there's a surprising number. http://www.howstat.com/cricket/statistics/Matches/MatchFollowOn.asp?FollowOn=T&Result=Won - including almost 30 involving England.
jakarta
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Extras now 2nd highest scorer, Lees and Crawley should hang their heads...
jakarta
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Broad is absolutely brainless... 
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Eng 284 all out
Going to need a special bowling performance for England to get anything out of this test.
Not convinced that last wicket was a clean catch either, but as umpire had given out on soft signal it was never going to be given not out.
Going to need a special bowling performance for England to get anything out of this test.
Not convinced that last wicket was a clean catch either, but as umpire had given out on soft signal it was never going to be given not out.
Sorry that's crap it was 100% a bump ball, poor from the third umpire. His fingers were no where near it until it bounced up of the grass.
Cheating, pure and simple. I’m actually convinced he grassed it twice - it didn’t carry originally, then he spilled it and dived on top of it. Umpire mugged off, in taking the fielder at his word.
Really ****ing poor, especially in light of the one Root ‘took’ that would have seen India six down and in big trouble. The Root one carried more than this one did, and because Root was honest and said he was genuinely unsure, the soft signal was not out.
100% right and these sodding commentators can we get English ones commentating to an English audience, I'm not interested in how wonderful, magnificent, superb everything India do. Especially that prick Kolhi.
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Nice one Jimmy 
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Interesting stats. And notable before 2001.
In the century or so prior the follow on was only not enforced on 18 occasions. In the twenty years since, 77.
Nobody has enforced it against Australia since the Trent Bridge match I mentioned.
I think nowadays it is only used against weaker teams or if the weather is a risk.
My word, there is so much Cricket stat porn around I think I'll have to pull the blinds down.
England mockingly claiming bump balls in the slips says it all about what they think about Indian's claiming bump balls.
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Stokes seems to love Broad, Potts should have been given the new ball, been much more consistent just lately.
jakarta
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Broad owes England a VERY cheap 5-fer after his performances so far.
Such a shame Archer, Robinson & Wood are all out, Broad would be looking at his retirement plan, although I'm not sure he can read big words.
Such a shame Archer, Robinson & Wood are all out, Broad would be looking at his retirement plan, although I'm not sure he can read big words.
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Broad massively owes England after his 550 test wickets, a poor mans Martin McCague.
jakarta
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I am of course talking about his crap bowling and batting decisions in this match - do you think he has played well?
No shit so far. But I think to say he owes England is a stretch too far.
Cant see anything but a India win here. And if England want to save the game, it will have to be with old fashioned values of protecting your wicket like your life depends on it, ala Boycott, Cook, Atherton etc
Don't think they have this within them with the new policy of smashing every delivery out of the park.
Don't think they have this within them with the new policy of smashing every delivery out of the park.
Fifteen overs short of the day's allocation - utterly disgraceful. These have been exciting test matches this summer, so the shortfall has been unnoticed but it's depriving spectators. It doesn't help that the ball is being changed so often that's something that needs to be looked at but the interruptions from people walking behind the bowler's arm are getting tedious. I think it's time that stewards went in and removed offenders from the ground - that would stop it pretty quickly.
I'm not impressed by batters' delaying tactics towards the end of the day either - England did it yesterday, India today. Umpires should tell them to get on with it. We used to see more than 100 overs in a day (and that was in six hours). We have more time now and are seeing 25 to 30 overs fewer, how low does it have to go before the authorities start acting?
I'm not impressed by batters' delaying tactics towards the end of the day either - England did it yesterday, India today. Umpires should tell them to get on with it. We used to see more than 100 overs in a day (and that was in six hours). We have more time now and are seeing 25 to 30 overs fewer, how low does it have to go before the authorities start acting?
I really don't have an issue if we do. We were the worst Test team on the planet just a few months ago and we've just whitewashed one of the best (albeit with us at home) in a highly exciting and risk taking manner. The days of Tavere and Boycott boring people to death for three days are long gone, and so they should be if the likes of The Hundred are to have some competition with the modern, thrill a second, short attention spanned cricket fan.
I can remember having a post village game chat with an opposing skipper after a game in which both of our sides had batted poorly. He reminisced about his side getting out for around 70ish in a different game and being asked in the dressing room "how will we defend that Skip?". His answer was "we won't, we'll attack it" and he fired up his best fast bowlers and set them an attacking field, and won the game.
This England side will win from impossible positions and, every now and again, we'll concede 500 or so to a poor side or get all out for less than 100. So long as there are wins in there as well it'll kick the shit out of the dross served up by Root and Silverwood.
However.....
This is a real issue and could undo all of that decent entertainment value work. Combined with high ticket prices, low over rates represent the paying public having the piss taken out of them. I agree it needs sorting. Penalties should be much heavier and extend to penalty runs (and lots of them).