kevo
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- Mar 8, 2008
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Has anyone actually seen any clear footage of it? Did Taylor?Yes to both these points. Still don't actually know what the penalty was for - pull, push, trip....?
Has anyone actually seen any clear footage of it? Did Taylor?Yes to both these points. Still don't actually know what the penalty was for - pull, push, trip....?
Not sure I have seen any warning and not sure what about. It is very straightforward to prove they are incompetent or under external influence. Just watch them they are incompetent by their inconsistency. As you wanted proof: take the handball penalty against Dunk that hit his arm after his back, a week or so later the same body-to-hand incident occured in a Liverpool game I think, and it was not awarded as a penalty.I've warned you privately, and now I'm warning you publicly. Post things about officials on here that you can't back up and you'll be banned.
I've absolutely no doubt that PGMOL will check the social media and message boards of the competing clubs. If they take objection to something that clearly cannot be proven in any way, you'll be gone before NSC is.
Capiche?
But how is that ‘proof of being ‘under external influence’? You have no proof. All you have done is point out poor refereeing on the pitch vis a vis inconsistency which no one (well almost no one) here is disagreeing with.Not sure I have seen any warning and not sure what about. It is very straightforward to prove they are incompetent or under external influence. Just watch them they are incompetent by their inconsistency. As you wanted proof: take the handball penalty against Dunk that hit his arm after his back, a week or so later the same body-to-hand incident occured in a Liverpool game I think, and it was not awarded as a penalty.
Happy now?
The key is the word OR: incompetent OR external influence. I provided proof they are incompetent.But how is that ‘proof of being ‘under external influence’? You have no proof. All you have done is point out poor refereeing on the pitch vis a vis inconsistency which no one (well almost no one) here is disagreeing with.
Sorry but if you keep insisting that you have proof of undue influence or corruption in the game, you need to be prepared to back that up in a court with evidence because you will find yourself on the wrong side of a libel suite.
Truth is the only defence to defamation.
Great - many would agree on incompetency.The key is the word OR: incompetent OR external influence. I provided proof they are incompetent.
There seems to be some kind of daily mail campaign about respecting refs as well which has just come into effect. (Which isn't too bad a thing let's be honest)The trouble is Dunk was stupid for going over to talk to Taylor in the first place. I am always shouting out when other teams do it that the ref should just book the player, and they never do, until yesterday.
Dunk's response to the yellow card was silly, but again how many times do players say something or react after being booked and they never get booked for dissent.
However, I actually support both decisions, with the proviso that this must be applied consistently by all refs throughout the season. And we know it won't.
If I were a conspiracy theorist, I would definitely be making the link between RDZs comments about refs and Taylor's actions towards our captain.
Other people have said no one has been sent off for dissent for 11 years, BUT that’s not what happened here.
He had a yellow card for dissent.
he then had a straight red for foul and abusive language. The Argus has said that the Press Association have confirmed the straight red. Calling the ref a cheating @&#* is not wise. (Rhymes with punt)
It’s apparently a 2 match ban.
No - you cannot be sent off for dissent.
No-one has been sent-off for using abusive language in 11 years.
Lewis is the first player to swear at a ref for over a decade, apparently.
Is that screenshot from a website or an app? Either way, I'd like to add it to my list of resources - where can I access it please?Yep, Opta have it that way and they normally get details from the ref straight after the match.
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What is abusive language?Are you just counting the PL ? Players in the EFL have been recently
And it isn’t swearing - it’s abusive language
Confirmed it’s a two game ban for Dunk which means no second yellow was shown and it was a straight red card. (also included a screen shot in case the link doesn't work properly)
The website for the English football association, the Emirates FA Cup and the England football team
Search by Club - view the suspensions, red cards, yellow cards, and misconduct charges for your teamwww.thefa.com
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It is why I wasn't a fan of what De Zerbi said after the Sheffield United game; there is simply no good that can come from public comments like that, either for Albion or the game as a whole. And in the very next match his captain gets a caution and straight red card for dissent and then abusive language. Right now Albion are part of the problem and it isn't the place I want my club to be.There is a lot of talk on here about refereeing incompetence. I regularly ref school youth football and that's stressful enough with whingeing parents questioning every decision. I can't begin to imagine what it is like trying to ref a Premier league match with twenty two absolute cheats playing on the pitch, thirty thousand or more biased fans screaming at you and minute frame by frame analysis of every decision. Who would do it?
So what we need is refereeing perfection; maybe reffing by artificial intelligence. But we'd still moan wouldn't we? It's not about incompetence or perfection; we just want every single decision given to our team or they're wrong. Someone beam me back to the 60s please...
That's a reasonable position.It is why I wasn't a fan of what De Zerbi said after the Sheffield United game; there is simply no good that can come from public comments like that, either for Albion or the game as a whole. And in the very next match his captain gets a caution and straight red card for dissent and then abusive language. Right now Albion are part of the problem and it isn't the place I want my club to be.
De Zerbi, after the Sheffield United game, admitted that Dahoud's red was the correct decision. As such, there was simply no logical reason to even start talking about referees. And yet, in two separate after-match press conferences (one of which was for Match of the Day) he comes out with "I don't like 80% of referees".That's a reasonable position.
I also think De Zerbi's position is reasonable.
He is professionally engaged with a group that have consistently under-performed in games he has been involved in.
They have statistically delivered poorer outcomes for his team than most other teams.
He isn't claiming that Dunk's or Dahoud's Reds weren't warranted.
But he has stated that Palinha's was, and was ignored.
It doesn't help, I agree.
But equally the issue existed before RDZ started commenting on it.
Firstly, check your PMs.Not sure I have seen any warning and not sure what about. It is very straightforward to prove they are incompetent or under external influence. Just watch them they are incompetent by their inconsistency. As you wanted proof: take the handball penalty against Dunk that hit his arm after his back, a week or so later the same body-to-hand incident occured in a Liverpool game I think, and it was not awarded as a penalty.
Happy now?