DJs playing Gary Glitter

[Jam The Man]

Jeeeeeeebus H. Microbus I know it shouldn't bother me, but the twats are really out tonight on NSC...

NO..it's NOT acceptable to play Glitter. He was a convicted paedophile. End of.

YES..it's acceptable to play Jackson. He was convicted of nothing, and anyone with half a brain would actually bother to research what is known about his case and realise why he wasn't convicted.

NO..the music of Jackson or Glitter or Beatles or Iyaz or Abba or Sex Pistols etc etc isn't the slightest bit shit. Barely ANY music is shit as is it's all about taste. There is enough music out there in the wide world to appeal to everyone's tastes so why knock it?

Must be bloody lonely in some of your narrow viewed lives...bet you've got some bad stomach acid going on too with all that negativity...



Unless said people are fascists, in which case i'm not surprised.

 

[Worthai Seagull]

I think it is best to avoid playing any Glitter to be honest.

Because of musical taste? ... Presumably you wont watch any Roman Polanski movies then !!

 

[Freddie Goodwin.]

If it's a party for people of a certain age, when early 70's musicwas 'their time' then maybe play a few snippets as part of a medley of early 70's hits.

It can't be denied that he was big back then so any tribute to the charts of the time should include a snippet. If you play a whole track (or 2) then you run the real risk of offending someone. Play a part and see how it goes. Will be interested to hear the outcome.

 

[Worthai Seagull]

OK..lets move to Polanski. Has directed some extraordinary movies..... shagged a 15 year old. Is, atm under house arrest in Switzerland.
Would anyone here not go to see his movies because of what he has done ?

 

[The Modfather]

Avoid.

I do wonder what sort of person would actually want to fanny around on the dancefloor to Leader of the gang, knowing what he was convicted of.

 

[hitony]

wouldn't play it at a kids party

adults shouldn't be an issue

Very much doubt any kids would even have a clue who he was.

 

[Laptop Ell]

If you like GG's music then play it and enjoy it...completely irrelevant what he did.

I'm not a fan, but only because I hated his big tune "Rock, Rock, Rock" or whatever it was called when it was released!

 

[NMH]

MJ was not a paedo. Just a very odd man who was 10 in his mind.

A child in his care should not have been able to identify birthmarks on the underside of his penis.
Fact.

Why do people feel they need to defend the gloved fiddler?

 

[beorhthelm]

MJ was not a paedo. Just a very odd man who was 10 in his mind.

mental instability doesn't alter whether some is a peado or not.

 

[NMH]

Jeeeeeeebus H. Microbus I know it shouldn't bother me, but the twats are really out tonight on NSC...

NO..it's NOT acceptable to play Glitter. He was a convicted paedophile. End of.

YES..it's acceptable to play Jackson. He was convicted of nothing, and anyone with half a brain would actually bother to research what is known about his case and realise why he wasn't convicted.

NO..the music of Jackson or Glitter or Beatles or Iyaz or Abba or Sex Pistols etc etc isn't the slightest bit shit. Barely ANY music is shit as is it's all about taste. There is enough music out there in the wide world to appeal to everyone's tastes so why knock it?

Must be bloody lonely in some of your narrow viewed lives...bet you've got some bad stomach acid going on too with all that negativity...

Unless said people are fascists, in which case i'm not surprised.

A mate was on LAPD at the time.
I take HIS word about the case, over a bunch of people who could be (were) corrupted or legally stopped from revealing the truth.

Also, MJ's assertions that he was molested by his father are not a reason to believe he had good reasons to fiddle about, or is innocent.

 

[Easy 10]

There's nothing inherantly WRONG with playing Glitters stuff. Its just that everybody knows exactly what everyone else will be thinking when one of his tracks starts belting out - there'll be a few uncomfortably glances between guests, and a load of people will go and sit down.

Basically it'll probably go down like a turd in a fondue, so personally I'd say best avoid it and stick a bit of Club Tropicana on instead.

 

[Jam The Man]

A child in his care should not have been able to identify birthmarks on the underside of his penis.
Fact.

Why do people feel they need to defend the gloved fiddler?

This was disproved and a full retraction and apology issued...
Fact.

Never ever heard Jackson state his father had molested him. Abused (beat with a belt) yes, molested no.

But you seem convinced there was a cover up, so nothing I say will alter your view. Agree to disagree is the only answer in this debate.

 

[The Grockle]

Very much doubt any kids would even have a clue who he was.

I think there's a handfull that know him all too well.

 

[hitony]

A mate was on LAPD at the time.
I take HIS word about the case, over a bunch of people who could be (were) corrupted or legally stopped from revealing the truth.

Also, MJ's assertions that he was molested by his father are not a reason to believe he had good reasons to fiddle about, or is innocent.

Nothing to do with the Michael Jackson case, but with regards to the Los Angeles Police Department, they are probably one of the most corrupt forces going, just one of many examples.......

Some officers caught up in investigation



Scores of LAPD officers were implicated in alleged crimes and misconduct in the Rampart scandal. Most were not prosecuted and remain on the job. Others resigned or were fired, but never faced criminal charges.

Among those who were implicated in crimes, but were not prosecuted and still are employed by the LAPD:

JOHN BERTINO

Active duty

Accused of covering up allegedly unjustified shooting that left a man critically injured. A rookie officer alleged that he had ordered her to falsify a report.

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PAUL BYRNES

Relieved of duty

Supervisor at the scene of a beating for which three officers have been convicted. Allegedly tipped Perez off to investigation in 1998. Relieved for unrelated alleged misconduct.

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ARMANDO CORONADO

Active duty

Accused of conspiring to make false arrests, using excessive force and committing perjury.

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FRANK GALINDO

Active duty

Accused of covering up allegedly unjustified shooting in which a man was killed. It remains under investigation.

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SONNY GARCIA

Restricted duty

Involved in accidental shooting that allegedly was covered up. Suspended for 110 days in unrelated case for associating with a known felon and for unauthorized accessing of department computers.

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GEORGE HOOPES

Restricted duty

Made plaques for officers who wounded or killed suspects. Refused to testify before a grand jury. Recently suspended for 15 days for associating with a felon.

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DANIEL LUJAN

Restricted duty

Dubbed the "Candy Man," Perez said, because he planted rock cocaine on suspects. Involved in Dec. 31, 1995 "New Year's Eve" shooting which was allegedly unjustified and covered up. Found guilty by LAPD disciplinary board of filing false report in gun plant case and reprimanded because statutory limit for more serious discipline had expired.

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LAWRENCE MARTINEZ

Restricted duty

Fired over the alleged framing of a drug suspect. Firing upheld by Superior Court, but then- Chief Martin Pomeroy granted a new hearing at which he was found not guilty and reinstated. Disciplinary charges pending.

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SCOTT McNEIL

Relieved of duty

Fired over the alleged framing of a drug suspect. Firing overturned by a judge because of procedural errors, and he was ordered reinstated. Accused of helping to cover up an unjustified shooting. Disciplinary charges pending.

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MICHAEL MONTOYA

Restricted duty

Accused of obstructing justice in investigation into slaying of a teenage gang member killed minutes after being released from patrol car. Also of covering up an allegedly unjustified shooting that left one man dead and two others injured. Allegedly lied to investigators about role as a backup officer in another shooting that was covered up. Refused to testify before a grand jury.

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KULIN PATEL

Active duty

Accused of covering up an allegedly unjustified shooting that left one man dead and two injured. Implicated in other alleged offenses, including an illegal search.

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MARK RICHARDSON

Active duty

Accused of covering up an unjustified shooting that left one man dead and two injured. Refused to testify before a grand jury. Implicated in other alleged offenses, including perjury, illegal search and false arrests.

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MARIO RIOS

Restricted duty

Accused of obstructing justice during investigation into the slaying of a teenage gang member killed after being released from patrol car. Also accused of lying to investigators about role as a backup officer in a shooting that was covered up.

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HUMBERTO TOVAR

Restricted duty

Fired for planting drugs on a suspect but reinstated because of procedural violations by LAPD disciplinary panel. Implicated in other alleged offenses including perjury, excessive force, illegal searches, false arrests. Disciplinary charges pending.

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OMAR VELOZ

Active duty

Accused of excessive force and false reports.

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DANIEL WIDMAN

Active duty

Shot an unarmed man in the stomach in 1995 — a shooting that police officials now say they believe was covered up.

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MELISSA ZAK

Active duty

Accused of covering up an allegedly unjustified shooting.

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Officers who resigned or were fired from the department, but not prosecuted in connection with Rampart probe:



EDWARD BREHM

Resigned

Accused of excessive force and conspiring to plant drugs on a suspect.

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JOHN COLLARD

Fired

Involved in Dec. 31, 1995 "New Year's Eve shooting," which was allegedly unjustified and covered up. Fired for inappropriately accessing department computers and lying to investigators. Implicated in other alleged offenses, including false arrests.

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BRIAN HEWITT

Fired

Allegedly beat a gang member bloody in the police station. Police officials publicly called for his prosecution, but he was never charged. Implicated in other alleged offenses, including false arrests, evidence planting and excessive force.

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SAMUEL MARTIN

Fired

Allegedly made false statements to investigators about a trip to Las Vegas with former LAPD Officers Rafael Perez and David Mack, shortly after Mack robbed a bank of more than $700,000.

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CAMERINO MESINA

Resigned

Former medal of valor winner given immunity for testifying against fellow officers in 1996 beating of a gang member. Admitted involvement in cover-up.

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RUBEN PALOMARES

Fired

Accused of covering up allegedly unjustified shooting in which a man was killed. Later convicted of cocaine trafficking after unrelated investigation. Under investigation with fellow LAPD officers in a string of invasion-style robberies. Also under investigation in an unsolved slaying in Huntington Park.

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DOYLE STEPP

Resigned

Accused of helping to cover up an allegedly unjustified shooting, using excessive and other offenses.

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Officers who were unsuccessfully prosecuted and who are still with the LAPD:



MICHAEL BUCHANAN

Relieved of duty

Convicted of conspiracy to obstruct justice, but conviction overturned by judge. Case appealed by district attorney. Disciplinary charges in Rampart scandal pending.

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PAUL HARPER

Active duty

Charged with obstruction of justice along with three other Rampart Division officers, but acquitted.

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BRIAN LIDDY

Relieved of duty

Convicted of conspiracy to obstruct justice; conviction overturned by judge. Case appealed by district attorney. Disciplinary charges in Rampart scandal pending.

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EDWARD ORTIZ

Relieved of duty

Convicted of conspiracy to obstruct justice; conviction overturned by judge. Case appealed by district attorney. Refused to testify before grand jury. Disciplinary charges scandal pending.

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Officers who resigned or were fired and who were convicted of crimes:



MANUEL CHAVEZ

Resigned

Pleaded no contest to assault under color of authority for 1996 beating of a gang member. Sentenced to 60-day jail term and placed on three years' probation.

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ETHAN COHAN

Fired

Pleaded guilty to obstruction of justice and filing a false report in 1996 beating of a gang member. Fired from LAPD for helping to cover up a beating in the Rampart police station in 1998. Serving one-year sentence in County Jail.

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NINO DURDEN

Resigned

Former partner of Perez pleaded guilty to stealing drugs and money from suspects and covering up the shooting of an unarmed man. Serving a five-year federal sentence.

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SHAWN GOMEZ

Resigned

Pleaded no contest to filing a false report in 1996 beating of a gang member. Sentenced to three years' probation and ordered to serve 400 hours of community service.

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Source: Los Angeles Police Department

 

[Easy 10]

LA cops have f***ing BRILLIANT names.

Omar Veloz
Armando Coronado
Humberto Tovar
Manuel Chavez

 

[Easy 10]

I wanna be SONNY GARCIA

 

[The Ringleader Returns!]

MJ didn't have a childhood. That would f*** up anyone mentally. The amount of kid stars who have died of drug/booze overdose in their 20s/30s is very high. MJ took it out very differently.

Glitter is just a cu*t. Don't play his stuff UNLESS you are going to scream CHILD SHAGGER over the top.

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

Actually it does seem that the main difference is that Glitter was pretty much a UK artist rather than worldwide like most of the others mentioned, maybe the Johnny Foreigner doesn't worry about such things as much as we do?

Sounds about right.

My mate is the lead signer in a cover band called The Glitter Gang. They play all 70's glam rock music and get dressed up just like Gary did.

Nobody seems to give a toss about Gary Glitter himself, they just enjoy the music.


Ferdinand Porsche was in league with Hitler, but people still drive around cars he created and were made by the Nazi favoured companies.

And they were a fair bit worse than Gary.

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

Chuck Berry and Elvis both did a 14 year old girls, yet its still ok to play their music.

 

[hitony]

Sounds about right.

My mate is the lead signer in a cover band called The Glitter Gang. They play all 70's glam rock music and get dressed up just like Gary did.

Nobody seems to give a toss about Gary Glitter himself, they just enjoy the music.


Ferdinand Porsche was in league with Hitler, but people still drive around cars he created and were made by the Nazi favoured companies.

And they were a fair bit worse than Gary.

I have to say, my musical tastes are very much influenced by the 60s and 70s,and whilst I most certainly do not condone what Gary Glitter did, it would not stop me listening to any of his music that I liked, to many, music brings back memorys, and that era was some of my best memorys.

And I most certainly would buy a porsche, well, if i could afford one.