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Pretty pink fairy

Pretty pink fairy

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Jan 30, 2008
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readingstockport said:
C one eight (not eighteen if you are being strict about it) are still knocking about and are still associated with Blood and Honour. They're not as active any more in this country, possibly due to the fact that they had a massive split and of course Charlie Seargant went to prison for murdering another member. They are also heavily infiltrated by the police and they know it.

As far as I know they are still in existence up in t'north, Oldham latics certainly had a small group a few years back.

There used to be a couple of C18 who knocked around in Reading bitd but once Frain 'moved' from Reading they all sort of drifted away. I still see one or two of his old boys drinking around some of the pubs but most of them have matured enough that out from his shadow they're not quite as moronic as they used to be.
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Thanks for that input readingstockport
regards
DR
 
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readingstockport

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Smelly whitley in Reading as well
Pretty pink fairy said:
Thanks for that input readingstockport
regards
DR
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I just tend to tell what I actually know Mr Fairy. I've not seen andy around this way for a long time, the old boys I mention are former RYF and are all in their late 40's/early 50's. Rather like the rest of us tbh. All the best Mr F. We must meet some day just to say hello.
 






Pretty pink fairy

Pretty pink fairy

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Jan 30, 2008
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readingstockport said:
I just tend to tell what I actually know Mr Fairy. I've not seen andy around this way for a long time, the old boys I mention are former RYF and are all in their late 40's/early 50's. Rather like the rest of us tbh. All the best Mr F. We must meet some day just to say hello.
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Yeah , who knows it's a small world might of been in the same pub at some point in the past who knows
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DR
 






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sir albion

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readingstockport said:
I just tend to tell what I actually know Mr Fairy. I've not seen andy around this way for a long time, the old boys I mention are former RYF and are all in their late 40's/early 50's. Rather like the rest of us tbh. All the best Mr F. We must meet some day just to say hello.
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I was a regular drinker with these lads and still see a few often....yeah most have settled down or have now moved abroad as they get plenty of idiots harassing them and still do sadly.It all went wrong after macintyre strolled into town.
 


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cunning fergus

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Jan 18, 2009
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Pretty pink fairy said:
Don't get all this Polish Facist ideals, after what went on in the 2nd world war you would have thought their elders would have put them straight on that one
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DR
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History is more complex than that though, the poles were subject to both German and Russian brutality.

Historically and during WW2 many poles fought with the Germans and they had more than their fair share working in the death camps........many located in Poland.

The contemporary view of the Poles in WW2 is that they only fought against the Germans, that is not Bourne out by the facts.

Indeed given the reality (and legacy ) of the country's treatment behind the post WW2 iron curtain it is possible amongst some younger Poles that they would rather have lived under a victorious Germany?

In any event, given their experience under Russia they certainly know what totalitarian tyranny looks like..........

http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...nd-clashes-independence-european-union-police

Gawd bless 'em
 


Pretty pink fairy

Pretty pink fairy

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Jan 30, 2008
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cunning fergus said:
History is more complex than that though, the poles were subject to both German and Russian brutality.

Historically and during WW2 many poles fought with the Germans and they had more than their fair share working in the death camps........many located in Poland.

The contemporary view of the Poles in WW2 is that they only fought against the Germans, that is not Bourne out by the facts.

Indeed given the reality (and legacy ) of the country's treatment behind the post WW2 iron curtain it is possible amongst some younger Poles that they would rather have lived under a victorious Germany?

In any event, given their experience under Russia they certainly know what totalitarian tyranny looks like..........

http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...nd-clashes-independence-european-union-police

Gawd bless 'em
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the one's in the camps , working as camp guards or the zonderkommando, bit of a difference
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DR
 




GreersElbow

GreersElbow

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Jan 5, 2012
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A Northern Outpost
cunning fergus said:
History is more complex than that though, the poles were subject to both German and Russian brutality.

Historically and during WW2 many poles fought with the Germans and they had more than their fair share working in the death camps........many located in Poland.

The contemporary view of the Poles in WW2 is that they only fought against the Germans, that is not Bourne out by the facts.

Indeed given the reality (and legacy ) of the country's treatment behind the post WW2 iron curtain it is possible amongst some younger Poles that they would rather have lived under a victorious Germany?

In any event, given their experience under Russia they certainly know what totalitarian tyranny looks like..........

http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...nd-clashes-independence-european-union-police

Gawd bless 'em
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I would have thought it had something to do with living under an oppressive dictatorship then rapid transformation to 'liberal democracy' and capitalism. It polarises the population, when they look back in history the most victorious nation during the 30s due to racialism and national socialism must appeal to them. Because they've had their national identity stripped under USSR, then flooded with foreigners in order to bolster their work force will inevitably create tension and looking for alternative ideas. Easier to blame someone else than yourself.
 








Theatre of Trees

Theatre of Trees

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Jul 5, 2003
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cunning fergus said:
History is more complex than that though, the poles were subject to both German and Russian brutality.

Historically and during WW2 many poles fought with the Germans and they had more than their fair share working in the death camps........many located in Poland.

The contemporary view of the Poles in WW2 is that they only fought against the Germans, that is not Bourne out by the facts.

Indeed given the reality (and legacy ) of the country's treatment behind the post WW2 iron curtain it is possible amongst some younger Poles that they would rather have lived under a victorious Germany?

In any event, given their experience under Russia they certainly know what totalitarian tyranny looks like..........

http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...nd-clashes-independence-european-union-police

Gawd bless 'em
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And to add to the complication it is worth noting the difference between Polish citizens and ethnic Poles here. Interwar Poland contained what is now western Ukraine, western Belarus and Wilno which is the current capital of Lithuania and thus around 30% of the population were of non-Polish ethnicity. There was a very vicious local civil war between Poles and Ukrainians happening at the time where the Germans would occasionally ally with one or other side to eradicate dangerous partisan groups.
 














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