[Travel] Cars and congestion

[Sid and the Sharknados]

Two is impossible because the ease of being able to go at your own time not bus time, no need to change buses, having storage for anything you want to carry, being able to go door to door, is all such an advantage that buses can't compete.

There are a huge number of journeys into and around town/city centres for which using the bus/tram/train is not only obviously preferable, but is obviously preferable by a vast margin.

 

[GT49er]

Nostalgia for a rose-tinted age.

No air pollution.

 

[GT49er]

Cheap and reliable public transport. It's not rocket science.

No, it isn't. Just much more complicated and difficult to make it work!

 

[GT49er]

Ban all cars except smart cars. They are half the size so we automatically cut down congestion by 50%.
I have suggested to this to many people but strangely no one appears to be supportive!

So we could fit twice as many carbon emitting cars in the same place?

 

[GT49er]

Inexplicably we spent tax payers money on removing cycle lanes.

If those are the 'Cycle Lanes' created by the council painting a bicycle on the pavement, good riddance!

 

[dsr-burnley]

There are a huge number of journeys into and around town/city centres for which using the bus/tram/train is not only obviously preferable, but is obviously preferable by a vast margin.

That must depend on which town or city. The only time when the bus is preferable for me to go into Burnley, is when there's snow on the road. I don't drive in snow.

Brighton, I dare say, is different.

 

[Horses Arse]

More motorbikes, smaller cars. I live out in the sticks and taking the bus can be problematic. I don't think increasing the frequency of buses is realistic here as there are insufficient users. Tax bigger cars more or incentivise smaller ones.

Insufficient use because of poor service and investment. Improve the service and folk have an option to use. Clear the roads and it becomes the first choice

 

[Sid and the Sharknados]

That must depend on which town or city. The only time when the bus is preferable for me to go into Burnley, is when there's snow on the road. I don't drive in snow.

Brighton, I dare say, is different.

Brighton may well be different to Burnley, but that's not what I'm basing my opinion on.
I'll grant you that getting public transport from somewhere outside Lewes to East Grinstead was a pain, because it took two changes and two modes of transport.
And going from suburban Leicester to Anstey was a drag as well.
Other than that, I've generally found getting to/from work on public transport pretty painless in most places.
On the other hand, if sanding my own balls off would guarantee never having to drive into Leeds ever again I'd seriously consider it.

 

[portlock seagull]

Wouldn't solve congestion though

It would help unblock A and B roads, increasingly used as unpaid car parks

 

[tstanbur]

BHCC taking the absolute piss by increasing parking charges from 17th July.

Zone N Central Hove and the area by Hospital increasing from £1.40 to £5.60 per hour! Greedy scum.

Paid parking zone prices

Find out the cost of the paid parking zones in Brighton & Hove.

www.brighton-hove.gov.uk

 

[Chicken Run]

BHCC taking the absolute piss by increasing parking charges from 17th July.

Zone N Central Hove and the area by Hospital increasing from £1.40 to £5.60 per hour! Greedy scum.

Paid parking zone prices

Find out the cost of the paid parking zones in Brighton & Hove.

www.brighton-hove.gov.uk

All this will do is reduce the number of people taking their cars into Hove, terrible idea…..

 

[dsr-burnley]

I've just been in Milwaukee, where buses run from everywhere to everywhere at a maximum of $864 per year if you use them all day and every day. Max $2 per ride, max $4 per day, max $19.50 per week and $72 per month. And from a very quick count of car v bus passengers while waiting for a bus one day, about 5% of journeys were made by bus and the rest by car. It's not a wealthy city, the buses are convenient and cheap, and people still prefer going by car.

As they would in this country even buses were cheaper and better. Cutting perhaps an hour a day off even a shortish commute is worth a lot to most people.

 

[Horses Arse]

The Cornish have got 3 months of this.

There's no way this level of entitlement just goes away because we have cheaper buses and trains.

But how else are they going to get there?

 

[happypig]

buses are far too expensive, I understand they need profit but why would you use it if you've got a car outside your house. unless their is proper investment into a jump on jump off service that is reliable and quick or a proper park and ride for daytrippers then not much is going to change. its all well and good to say put yellow lines everywhere or ban cars but when you need to drive for work or pure necessity your just making things worse

Encourage people to give up their cars by giving those who do a public transport discount pass (make it a meaningful discount though, around 75%). Won't work for everyone but for some, especially those on lower income, it might work.

The Cornish have got 3 months of this.

There's no way this level of entitlement just goes away because we have cheaper buses and trains.

That's Ireland

 

[mikeyjh]

Much talk about supply, little about demand. We make far too many unnecessary assisted journeys. You can manage without whatever you've forgotten from the supermarket, you could just walk that bit further. You don't need to go on 4/5 holidays a year.

We've become conditioned in to thinking we should be able to do whatever we want, whenever we want and however often we want and won't be told otherwise.

 

[Machiavelli]

BHCC taking the absolute piss by increasing parking charges from 17th July.

Zone N Central Hove and the area by Hospital increasing from £1.40 to £5.60 per hour! Greedy scum.

Paid parking zone prices

Find out the cost of the paid parking zones in Brighton & Hove.

www.brighton-hove.gov.uk

I blame the Greens.

 

[beorhthelm]

BHCC taking the absolute piss by increasing parking charges from 17th July.

Zone N Central Hove and the area by Hospital increasing from £1.40 to £5.60 per hour! Greedy scum.

Paid parking zone prices

Find out the cost of the paid parking zones in Brighton & Hove.

www.brighton-hove.gov.uk

in the spirit of this thread, this is what we want to see and a lot more.

 

[Stat Brother]

in the spirit of this thread, this is what we want to see and a lot more.

With a continuation to the £2 bus fare deal and cracking on with the Active Travel initiative...





...oh.

 

[virtual22]

Much talk about supply, little about demand. We make far too many unnecessary assisted journeys. You can manage without whatever you've forgotten from the supermarket, you could just walk that bit further. You don't need to go on 4/5 holidays a year.

We've become conditioned in to thinking we should be able to do whatever we want, whenever we want and however often we want and won't be told otherwise.

Who the hell is having 4/5 days holiday a year at the moment!!!! Sometimes feel I'm living in a parralell universe! Maybe some really well off but they can afford the new parking charges anyway.

 

[BNthree]

Council already saying they’re going to “review” those potential increases in parking charges

Parking fees and charges in Brighton & Hove

A statement from Council Leader Bella Sankey about parking fees and charges in the city.

www.brighton-hove.gov.uk

Probably due to the overwhelmingly negative response to them so far.