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Can you be offside if you collect the ball in your own half?







Goldstone Rapper

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But surely he only becomes active when he actually receives the ball.

Not true. Of course players are in a position to be interfering with play before they actually receive a ball.
 




Barrel of Fun

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It's a bit of a daft rule though. How much advantage do you want to give the defence? I feel anything collected in your own half should be onside, whether they were offside or not originally.

They should do away with the offside rule anyway. We'd have some results of the yesteryear like 7-3 instead of 0-0 or 1-0. Anything to discourage goalscoring is bad.
 


Questions

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Oct 18, 2006
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Worthing
Not true. Of course players are in a position to be interfering with play before they actually receive a ball.

You've convinced me. I can see it now. The minute he plays the ball he has gained an advantage from being in an offside position. Don't play it and he stays onside....irrespective of where the half way line is.
 




Goring-by-Seagull

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Jan 5, 2012
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If the ball is played to a player who is standing in an offside position, who then collects the ball in an onside position, he's still offside. Can't believe this is even being debated.

This all day long. Honestly, this is really basic basic stuff.
 


Goldstone Rapper

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You've convinced me. I can see it now. The minute he plays the ball he has gained an advantage from being in an offside position. Don't play it and he stays onside....irrespective of where the half way line is.

Yes, Mind you, he doesn't need to even play the ball for there to be an offence. If he runs away from the ball, drawing a defender away, to create space for a team mate to receive it, he would be deemed to be interfering with an opponent.
 


Neecha

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Jul 10, 2012
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There's some dispute amongst the people I discussed this with after the game. In the first half, Lingard (I think) was the last man and just in the Reading half as the ball was played but collected it well inside the Brighton half but was given offside. Is this correct? Some people said yes, others said no. I went with 'no'.

(Won't mention some of the other offside decisions given by the lino on the West Stand line that were clearly wrong - no debates there.)

If he touched the ball in an offside position in our half then he is on side if he has collected in in theirs it's offside.
 




Buzzer

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Oct 1, 2006
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This all day long. Honestly, this is really basic basic stuff.

It would be nice for once to have a footie debate on this forum without some arsehat getting all high and mighty.

The fact that he collected it in his own half is the reason for this debate. If the offside rule still applies in that instance then fair enough but this particular scenario is such a rare occurrence that it's anything but basic.
 


Goring-by-Seagull

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Jan 5, 2012
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It would be nice for once to have a footie debate on this forum without some arsehat getting all high and mighty.

The fact that he collected it in his own half is the reason for this debate. If the offside rule still applies in that instance then fair enough but this particular scenario is such a rare occurrence that it's anything but basic.

Apologies for being an arsehat. But we all know it's when the ball is played. If it was when the ball is received, you would have players onside when the ball is passed to them, but if they've just ran clear through the defence and receive the ball, that would be offside.
 


dazzer6666

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If he touched the ball in an offside position in our half then he is on side if he has collected in in theirs it's offside.

He can't be in an offside position in our half. He was offside when the ball was kicked (the only time that matters), it's irrelevant where he collects it after that (according to the laws of the game). The 'active' or 'interfering' question is a bit more subjective.
 






The Wookiee

Back From The Dead
Nov 10, 2003
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Worthing
There's some dispute amongst the people I discussed this with after the game. In the first half, Lingard (I think) was the last man and just in the Reading half as the ball was played but collected it well inside the Brighton half but was given offside. Is this correct? Some people said yes, others said no. I went with 'no'.

(Won't mention some of the other offside decisions given by the lino on the West Stand line that were clearly wrong - no debates there.)

Were you trying to explain it to women ?
 


Geriatric Seagull

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Nov 10, 2009
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Bill Nicholson, Bill Shankly and others all made the comment along the lines of " if a player's not interfering with play he shouldn't be on the pitch"! No wonder some of ours never get offside!
 










Neecha

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Jul 10, 2012
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He can't be in an offside position in our half. He was offside when the ball was kicked (the only time that matters), it's irrelevant where he collects it after that (according to the laws of the game). The 'active' or 'interfering' question is a bit more subjective.

Its the same thing well what I meant was the same thing. Im not 100% about inactive and active but I stand by the fact you cannot be offside in your own half this said receiving a pass played in your own half and receiving it in the oppositions half is of course offside
 




tinycowboy

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Aug 9, 2008
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Canterbury
I think they should consider changing the offside rule so that you can't be offside from a free kick. Seems inconsistent to me with the rules around the goal kick. Actually, I'm not that bothered. Sundays, eh??
 




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