Britain needs millions MORE immigrants says the Office for Budget Responsibility...

[Footsoldier]

liberal democracy

You've said it in two words. Those two words are what the problems are in the world today and will be for the foreseeable future. Those are such fuccked up words that they should be banned.

 

[BadFish]

You've said it in two words. Those two words are what the problems are in the world today and will be for the foreseeable future. Those are such fuccked up words that they should be banned.

What do you think they should be replaced with?

 

[BuddyBoy]

What do you think they should be replaced with?

Fascist dictatorship?

 

[User removed 4]

But I thought that immigrants cost the UK money. This is suggesting that they make the UK money.

Certainly seems to blow many of the standard NSC anti immigration arguments out of the water.

Oh well I suppose we can still listen to the bigots bang on about how they don't integrate or accept our culture. And how they are not allowed to raise their bigoted points without being branded bigots.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/pol...rcrowding-and-fuel-tensions-report-finds.html

 

[BuddyBoy]

Exactly. Playing the 'class envy card' card is really just a substitute for thinking, a lazy way to brush off an argument without addressing it. Much like playing the racist card against someone who has concerns about immigration.

'Concerns', yes, agreed. Unfortunately much of the argument over immigration is tainted with hostile, non evidence based, bigotry.

 

[Bulldog]

Ninja dressing gown boy is back!

This may be the hot topic in your your yoof club, but in the world of adults, life is a bit more complicated.

I invite you to come over to where I live, and pick some fruit and veg. No? Don't fancy it? Hmm . . . I suspect you are not alone. That's why Kent is awash with Czech and Polish people picking the crops. Its all very well banning immigrants, (and most of the people to which I refer go home, albeit some stay). But unless we enforce compulsory farmwork for the UK's mass of unwashed white trash, the crops will die.

Economics, dear boy. Most of us accept it. Some like it. Others brood about it. You won't change it. No matter how many of your yoof club mates you exhort to vote for UKRAP.

How fecking dare you refer to people as white trash. Would it be acceptable if I spoke of unemployed immigrants as black spongers? No it wouldn't. And just who the hell do you think put the cabbages on the plates of this country for the last thousand bloody years if it wasn't the white trash you so easily slag off.
My hard up working class parents often spent their summer days off from the boring slog of work picking crops so us kids had school uniforms to wear and you call them trash!
You slag off your class and your country yet I wonder how many days you have spent in the fields as a kid helping put food on the table.

 

[Guinness Boy]

You've said it in two words. Those two words are what the problems are in the world today and will be for the foreseeable future. Those are such fuccked up words that they should be banned.

Hmm. Not sure where to start.

Actually no, **** that, I do. By asking you to define a better system. Presumably since you want words banned you're not a Libertarian. Socialism? Communism? Yeah, that's worked well eh? China doesn't even bother pretending it's Socialist now. Controlling yes. Socalist no. So what's the big idea?

 

[Footsoldier]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/pol...rcrowding-and-fuel-tensions-report-finds.html

You know I know and the majority of the population are starting to notice that immigrants are a drain on the public finances. The governments are only starting to listen to the public now because they are shit scared of UKIP and why are they scared of UKIP? It's because the Brititish people have had enough of blatant lies from the bullshitting previous governments. Now the Government and Labour are petrified at losing votes that they make out they are doing something about it to stop voters deserting to UKIP but the British people aren't fooled any more.

 

[Guinness Boy]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/pol...rcrowding-and-fuel-tensions-report-finds.html

There's literally two weeks between that post and the one I quoted. And it's by the same person. Which one's right?

 

[Footsoldier]

There's literally two weeks between that post and the one I quoted. And it's by the same person. Which one's right?

Obviously not yours.

 

[Flex Your Head]

Quite.

Mass immigration to provide cheap labour (sic) for the cotton mills in Lancashire was introduced by whom? The Conservatives. Specifocally, the minister in charge, one Enoch Powell. Yes indeed. One and the same. Old 'rivers of blood'.

Until the racism aspects crept into anti-immigration, the Labour party was against immigration for the reasons explained in the quotes above.

Then in the 70s we had the NF and 'paki-bashing' and bizarre worship of nazis by self-styled British patriots, and the left shifted its position in reaction, and became pro-immigration (sort of) and anti-racist (sort of . . . then very definitely).

Its a funny old world, but, to be sure, the tories are not interested in patriotism. They are interested in power and money, and they are very good indeed in achieving the first and acquiring the second - for themselves.

All this green, alternative nonsense is just a diversion. As is (sadly) socialism. The Power Elite . . . . time I listened to my 70 Gwen Party CDs . . . Lol!

Good (and slightly sad) summary.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

You know I know and the majority of the population are starting to notice that immigrants are a drain on the public finances. The governments are only starting to listen to the public now because they are shit scared of UKIP and why are they scared of UKIP? It's because the Brititish people have had enough of blatant lies from the bullshitting previous governments. Now the Government and Labour are petrified at losing votes that they make out they are doing something about it to stop voters deserting to UKIP but the British people aren't fooled any more.

Apart from your opening gambit which is false, the rest is correct, albeit exaggerated. The main parties are fluttering a little bit of stocking top in the direction of those who may vote UKIP, as a tactic to capture back the votes.

But there is no substance to your suggested notion that the British People give a shit. There is no groundswell. I mix with a vast array of folk. the only person I know who has complained about 'them coming over here and taking our jobs' is my cleaner. And she has not and does not vote. Because she can't be bothered.

Ninge, me lad, your cohorts can't be arsed to vote. Get over it. Go and meet some immigrants. One of them might even offer you a job.

 

[BuddyBoy]

the British people aren't fooled any more.

The whole British population? One big old homogenous bloc of anti-immigrant types are we? On another tip, would you like to see immigrants forcefully removed from the UK?

 

[Footsoldier]

Was going to mention that 'white trash' comment but thought best not as you can't be racist towards white people.

Look at prisons. 35% are Muslims. (ASIANS) 30% are Blacks. 25% are Foreign nationals and the 10% are white trash.

Whos the trash?

The government refuse or say they don't have information on what % of ethnic people claim the dole. lol They do but refuse to release the figures as we all know who are the who the ideal people are and it's not the white trash.

How fecking dare you refer to people as white trash. Would it be acceptable if I spoke of unemployed immigrants as black spongers? No it wouldn't. And just who the hell do you think put the cabbages on the plates of this country for the last thousand bloody years if it wasn't the white trash you so easily slag off.
My hard up working class parents often spent their summer days off from the boring slog of work picking crops so us kids had school uniforms to wear and you call them trash!
You slag off your class and your country yet I wonder how many days you have spent in the fields as a kid helping put food on the table.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

How fecking dare you refer to people as white trash. Would it be acceptable if I spoke of unemployed immigrants as black spongers? No it wouldn't. And just who the hell do you think put the cabbages on the plates of this country for the last thousand bloody years if it wasn't the white trash you so easily slag off.
My hard up working class parents often spent their summer days off from the boring slog of work picking crops so us kids had school uniforms to wear and you call them trash!
You slag off your class and your country yet I wonder how many days you have spent in the fields as a kid helping put food on the table.

Bulldog? What is that supposed to convey?

Get over yourself. I made no comment about your family. Mine also are white working class with all the scars.

The white trash to which I refer are the people who sit around here on benefits, popping out kids, watching Tricia, smoking fags, slapping the kids and feeding them crisps (that's the women), sitting in the pub all day, doing the odd bit of cash in hand (badly - I recommend using a reputable tradesman) and getting nicked for D and D (that's the blokes) while the crops die. Except they don't die, thanks to the Poles and Czechs working in our English fields. And they are paid well enough to fund their next year in medical school back in Krakow or wherever. I talk to them. Nice people.

Next . . . .

 

[Footsoldier]

The whole British population? One big old homogenous bloc of anti-immigrant types are we? On another tip, would you like to see immigrants forcefully removed from the UK?

Those who don't want to work and want everything for free then yes, round them up and kick em out, those that want to play by the rules and contribute to society and want to make this country better then by all means, stay and enjoy our country.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Those who don't want to work and want everything for free then yes, round them up and kick em out, those that want to play by the rules and contribute to society and want to make this country better then by all means, stay and enjoy our country.

And what do you suggest for the white trash round my way who won't work? Where do you want to kick them out to? I think you might be . . . racist.

 

[BuddyBoy]

Was going to mention that 'white trash' comment but thought best not as you can't be racist towards white people.

Look at prisons. 35% are Muslims. (ASIANS) 30% are Blacks. 25% are Foreign nationals and the 10% are white trash.

Whos the trash?

The government refuse or say they don't have information on what % of ethnic people claim the dole. lol They do but refuse to release the figures as we all know who are the who the ideal people are and it's not the white trash.

This bell end is unbelievable. You've made those stats up. A quick internet search proves you so wrong I almost pitty you. White prison population in March 2013 - 90%. I don't even know why I bothered.

 

[beorhthelm]

Look at prisons. 35% are Muslims. (ASIANS) 30% are Blacks. 25% are Foreign nationals and the 10% are white trash.

where do you get your imagintive stats from? is there a BNP page?

 

[Footsoldier]

And what do you suggest for the white trash round my way who won't work? Where do you want to kick them out to? I think you might be . . . racist.

Where we going to deport them to. Maybe they could get jobs if we controlled immigration?