[Politics] Brexit

[pb21]

...all the Brexit clowns at the top of this thread who think the referendum was an instruction to end free movement of people were right despite the specific question not being on the ballot paper.

No they weren't!

It is simply not true, you may like to think they were but you and everyone else who voted thinking that would be wrong.

What may happen as a result is that free movement is stopped, but that is not what people were voting on, and much less giving an instruction to do so. It may be what drove people to vote leave, but that's not what they were actually doing.

 

[SK1NT]

My kids are in their twenties and we talk, we respect we may have different views. Vote in private and continue the debate afterwards. Have to admit it has been LIVELY though!

My mum voted out and i can't bare to talk to her at the moment. She won't discuss her choice with me... Her political views are always opposite to me.. Silly woman

 

[Dick Swiveller]

My mum voted out and i can't bare to talk to her at the moment. She won't discuss her choice with me... Her political views are always opposite to me.. Silly woman

I hope you never bare to talk to your mum!

 

[SK1NT]

I hope you never bare to talk to your mum!

Bear

 

[biddles911]

Bugger, now I'm going to eat cheese..............lol

Along with a big slice of humble pie sounds appropriate.......!


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[sydney]

By that logic anyone leaving the country from now on in should be campaigning to get us to rejoin the EU immediately, since they are now leaving the UK rather than the EU.

well......what i meant was that people such as myself who left England nearly 30 years ago really do not qualify to comment on this subject as they no longer live , work or pay taxes in England.if you choose to leave a country to live and work elsewhere then you cannot expect to dictate to people who are still living in that country.

 

[Deleted member 22389]

Leave means leave and I wish the BBC would stop being so bloody negative.

 

[Guinness Boy]

Leave means leave and I wish the BBC would stop being so bloody negative.

How exactly? What are you specifically complaining about?

 

[Guinness Boy]

well......what i meant was that people such as myself who left England nearly 30 years ago really do not qualify to comment on this subject as they no longer live , work or pay taxes in England.if you choose to leave a country to live and work elsewhere then you cannot expect to dictate to people who are still living in that country.

That's more sensible but I think you can have an opinion, just not a vote. I lived in Sydney for a year and its my opinion that most of the pubs round The Rocks are shit. They may have changed and I can't change them now but I still remember them!

 

[SK1NT]

Just heard another pro REMAIN argument... Not that there isn't a load already...

60% of the companies outside of the EU have their EU head quarters in Britain. So whatevers going to happen next all of those jobs have gone, that's a minimum.

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

Just heard another pro REMAIN argument... Not that there isn't a load already...

60% of the companies outside of the EU have their EU head quarters in Britain. So whatevers going to happen next all of those jobs have gone, that's a minimum.

Bye bye American Express unless we get access to the market ?

 

[symyjym]

That's rather the problem with the referendum though, isn't it. People were asked one, simple, non-binding question; should the UK Leave the EU or Remain in the EU?

No mention of free movement or free trade. No mention, even of WHEN we should leave. No mention at all of the EEA or Council of Europe.

Of course many found just answering the simple question difficult enough. 25% of the country or more chose not to answer it at all. The campaigns on both sides quickly deteriorated in to rhetoric, lies and scare stories, precisely because the question, whilst seeming definite, was actually very vague.

Ask a child if they would like fish fingers and the ones that like them will say yes and the ones that don't no, and you have a simple decision on who to give fish fingers to. Ask them if they would like chicken nuggets or a burger instead, with or without chips, peas and ketchup, and you suddenly get a divided room where no one can agree on one course of action. Same here.

Another analogy would be chimps choosing apples or bananas. Apart from the turnout would be 100%.

 

[Deleted member 22389]

Just heard another pro REMAIN argument... Not that there isn't a load already...

60% of the companies outside of the EU have their EU head quarters in Britain. So whatevers going to happen next all of those jobs have gone, that's a minimum.

Nothing like a bit of positivity. You don't know what is going to happen. Where did you here that on the BBC?

 

[Deleted member 22389]

Bye bye American Express unless we get access to the market ?

American express have said they are not going anywhere.

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

American express have said they are not going anywhere.

What if we don't get the EU Banking passport ? Does that matter ?

 

[Greavsey]

What if we don't get the EU Banking passport ? Does that matter ?

Yes it does. Massively. My sense is that Amex along with all other large financial institutions in the UK will not be making bold statements to the press that they are pulling out of the UK because of the negative reaction. I don't believe any of them will move lock stock and barrel because there are particular jobs, business operations and talented people that need to stay residing in the UK. However, what we will see from all finance companies is a gradual migration of jobs either back to the US or to other EU markets and certainly thinking twice about making additional investment decisions into the UK.

 

[Deleted member 22389]

What if we don't get the EU Banking passport ? Does that matter ?

Not to me, the banks did a good job of wrecking this country where everyone was queuing up to get their money out, and everyone was up in arms, now the banks are everyone's best friend. The country would survive. Shame people don't get uptight about the lack of manufacturing in this country.

 

[CHAPPERS]

Not to me, the banks did a good job of wrecking this country where everyone was queuing up to get their money out, and everyone was up in arms, now the banks are everyone's best friend. The country would survive.

Oh good, **** em then.

 

[beorhthelm]

Yes it does. Massively. My sense is that Amex along with all other large financial institutions in the UK will not be making bold statements to the press that they are pulling out of the UK because of the negative reaction. I don't believe any of them will move lock stock and barrel because there are particular jobs, business operations and talented people that need to stay residing in the UK. However, what we will see from all finance companies is a gradual migration of jobs either back to the US or to other EU markets and certainly thinking twice about making additional investment decisions into the UK.

finance companies are in London for more than the passporting and that wont change. no ones want to live in Frankfurt, its a soulless place, while French banks move operations to London which tells you a lot about being in Paris. companies will set up brass plates on the continent if needed, as they already do in and out of any country as required. clearing Eurobonds might move to somewhere in europe but trading will continue outside the Eurozone just as it occurs outside the EU already.

 

[Baldseagull]

Not to me, the banks did a good job of wrecking this country where everyone was queuing up to get their money out, and everyone was up in arms, now the banks are everyone's best friend. The country would survive. Shame people don't get uptight about the lack of manufacturing in this country.

There is a difference between surviving and thriving.
I am uptight about the lack of manufacturing in this country, that is partly what makes the financial services so important to the national economy. But let me say, we would have to make an awful lot of toasters, or Tellys or whatever to make up for the loss of even 5% of the tax take from the City.