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LamieRobertson
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Should have had a yellow for that
Prince Monolulu
Everything in Moderation
Agree 100%. The more I see and hear of SD the more he comes across as a rounded, rational bloke. Love some of the shrouded diplomatic inferences but many managers could learn a thing or two from watching how to conduct yourself professionally and with dignity intact.
Greg Bobkin
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I watched MoTD last night and was 'interested' to hear Savage banging on about the first penalty appeal. He claimed that his hands were in the way and he could have moved them out of the way, he'd 'made himself big' and that it was a nailed on penalty. This is the same guy who said exactly the opposite about a very similar situation during the Arsenal game against us. Double standards? Siding with the big boys? Between him and Shearer, it was a completely one-sided assessment of the game and smacks of jumping on the bandwagon, instead of a balanced assessment.
SD makes some very good points, and noticed the same as I did, that the ball hit his thigh before his hand. Yes, it's his team and he's defending them, but even so, I thought he came across very well. I've not seen the Jose appearance on Goals on Sunday, but there are a few images flying around commenting about how his team aren't exactly angelic, and then there is also this (apologies if fixtures)... http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/dec/24/jose-mourinho-arsenal-chelsea-arsene-wenger
Makes you think...
SD makes some very good points, and noticed the same as I did, that the ball hit his thigh before his hand. Yes, it's his team and he's defending them, but even so, I thought he came across very well. I've not seen the Jose appearance on Goals on Sunday, but there are a few images flying around commenting about how his team aren't exactly angelic, and then there is also this (apologies if fixtures)... http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/dec/24/jose-mourinho-arsenal-chelsea-arsene-wenger
Makes you think...
Mackenzie
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Great stuff from Dyche.Sorry if I'm boring anyone by bringing this to the top again and you can tell me to buzz off (I'm posting this first obviously).
Here's how you conduct yourself Jose Mourwhingeo............
Barnes will undoubtedly be cast as the villain due to the media ignorance on Saturday night, I wonder if he'll become a target for zealous referees and 'hard man' centre halves now. Not that Ashley will mind that!
symyjym
Banned
But we all know that Savage is a tw4t and Shearer got Newcastle relegated.
However I think most people have a lot of respect for Lineker?
All this posturing and moaning that Jose has come out with afterwards is irrelevant, but this is now also being used as if it was integral to the split second incident. Savage, Shearer and Jose has no bearing on personal opinion on what happed and it is daft that they are even being used in this debate.
All those other incidents relating to Chelsea’s dangerous play on the pitch only shows they aren't exactly angelic, and have got away with a lot themselves.
brightn'ove
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Yes let's ban players from passing the ball, that will improve the game!
BensGrandad
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It wasnt the pass that caused the problem it was the follow through that was reckless and arguably intentional.
drew
Drew
I appreciate that Digger polarises opinions but in my view
1: Mourinho is a master at switching the attention away from a relatively poor performance by his team by turning the focus to the referee or an opponent. Ferguson was the same.
2: If Matic really had come close to having his leg broken, or had indeed been seriously injured, how come he was up off the ground in about 0.00003 seconds after he slid into Barnes?
3: After listening to him a few times this season, I think Sean Dyche is my favourite ginger of all time,
1: Mourinho is a master at switching the attention away from a relatively poor performance by his team by turning the focus to the referee or an opponent. Ferguson was the same.
2: If Matic really had come close to having his leg broken, or had indeed been seriously injured, how come he was up off the ground in about 0.00003 seconds after he slid into Barnes?
3: After listening to him a few times this season, I think Sean Dyche is my favourite ginger of all time,
Greg Bobkin
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The thing is, Ash could have fallen awkwardly as a result of that push and he, HIMSELF, therefore suffered a career-threatening injury. I bet no-one has thought of THAT 
I'm afraid it's just another example of things being blown out of proportion, by all concerned, especially the media. The PL is all a bit pantomime nowadays you have summers of non-stories about players leaving or not leaving clubs, just to fill air time and column inches. Then during the season, you get teams that are amazing one week, to relegation fodder the next. Liverpool, for example, were being considered in a relegation battle a while back, and now they are the form team and the tip of many of the 'experts' to get fourth place!
I'm afraid it's just another example of things being blown out of proportion, by all concerned, especially the media. The PL is all a bit pantomime nowadays you have summers of non-stories about players leaving or not leaving clubs, just to fill air time and column inches. Then during the season, you get teams that are amazing one week, to relegation fodder the next. Liverpool, for example, were being considered in a relegation battle a while back, and now they are the form team and the tip of many of the 'experts' to get fourth place!
drew
Drew
It's irrelevant what Mourinho does or doesn't say and, despite his measured comments, it isn't about what Dyche says either. It doesn't matter whether Matic was injured or not. It is about whether the follow through from Barnes was or wasn't with some intent.
Which is something neither you or I know
symyjym
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If that had happened to one of our players this thread would read differently, and knowing March's luck he would have had his leg broken in three if it happened to him.
8th battalion East Lancs
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Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
As I pointed out, Calderon did break the Newport player's leg in almost exactly the same way. It ended his career. That's why I don't think Barnes had any intent, because Matic wasn't injured. If Barnes had meant it, Matic would have been badly injured.
symyjym
Banned
Of course no player goes out on the pitch to deliberately seriously harm another, but they are often told by their manager to go in strong and make sure the opposition knows they are there. Leaving something on them is a common practice and Barnes isn’t anymore immune from this than any other player.
Listening to Virgo last night, he said it was deserving of a yellow. Which to me sounds like it could be considered that he went in too strong. I think that Barnes was lucky that he reached the ball a split second before it reached Matic who ultimately won the ball anyway.
Many have thought the first incident deserved a yellow, so if the last one did as well, and they had both been given, he would have been off.
Just for your info, I have always supported Barnes on here, so without any bias, or Barnes bashing, I am just saying it as I see it.
BensGrandad
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If that niggly no 23 last night Cook of Leeds had done the same to one of our player this site would be in uproar now
Yet more disgusting images of violence in the game. I'm starting to question whether I should continue to watch a sport which has become a barbaric spectacle more at home in the colosseum.
But if he'd been given a yellow for the first, he's more likely to have been more cautious later in the game.