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Is Labour going to turn the country around

  • Yes

    Votes: 147 27.1%
  • No

    Votes: 326 60.1%
  • Fence

    Votes: 69 12.7%

  • Total voters
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cunning fergus

Well-known member
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Jan 18, 2009
5,077
Ah - so that's what lead to all your posts on this topic.
To some extent you’re right. Immigration (whether legal or illegal) on the scale we have experienced in the last 20 years, and continue to experience now causes problems. It may solve some but it definitely creates others.

If we were all paying less tax and were living in the kind of society we everyone bought everyone else a coke maybe these threads would not be divisive, but we’re in the real world and taxpayers are felling poorer whilst the Government, previous lot included have no intention of dealing with immigration levels.

I do have a hotel near me accommodating asylum seekers, aside from the locals losing their jobs I have no other contact with it that causes me problems. Others where I live feel differently.

More tricky is the scheme to build 200 houses near where I live, in the plan the plot will be saturated in housing of all types. This is creating more noise locally as, amongst other potential issues, the local Council have not agreed to put locals that are on the housing list to the top of the priority list for the scheme.

This is causing a lot of heat and the local MP and councillors are getting dogs abuse because people are making their minds up why. It is this type of issue that is touching people up and down the country and why immigration on the levels we are experiencing is a problem.
 




Chicken Run

Member Since Jul 2003
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Jul 17, 2003
21,141
No reason why the extra money that France wants can't come from savings made from cuts in overseas aid spending also

It probably does, anyway i accepted years ago that this country should provide billions to overseas aid, if the money for housing irregular immigration folk in Hotels and all the associated costs comes out of this pot then fine by me, i actually feel a little better about the huge costs we spend on this, having recently learned this.
 


Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
Some good news for a change.

Arrests of migrants working illegally in the UK have increased by 51% in the year since the general election, after the government targeted restaurants, nail bars, and construction sites.

From 5 July 2024 - the day after Labour won the election - to 31 May 2025, 6,410 people have been arrested on suspicion of working illegally, according to Home Office figures.

Alongside the arrests, since Labour came to power, almost 30,000 people who had no right to be in the UK have been returned to their home countries, according to Home Office data.

 


Chicken Run

Member Since Jul 2003
NSC Patron
Jul 17, 2003
21,141
Some good news for a change.

Arrests of migrants working illegally in the UK have increased by 51% in the year since the general election, after the government targeted restaurants, nail bars, and construction sites.

From 5 July 2024 - the day after Labour won the election - to 31 May 2025, 6,410 people have been arrested on suspicion of working illegally, according to Home Office figures.

Alongside the arrests, since Labour came to power, almost 30,000 people who had no right to be in the UK have been returned to their home countries, according to Home Office data.

This is good news, there are many folk sharing food delivery accounts with unauthorised workers as well as many’Ped Riders’ racing round town not properly insured
 


Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
73,200
Withdean area
Some good news for a change.

Arrests of migrants working illegally in the UK have increased by 51% in the year since the general election, after the government targeted restaurants, nail bars, and construction sites.

From 5 July 2024 - the day after Labour won the election - to 31 May 2025, 6,410 people have been arrested on suspicion of working illegally, according to Home Office figures.

Alongside the arrests, since Labour came to power, almost 30,000 people who had no right to be in the UK have been returned to their home countries, according to Home Office data.


Floating voter here, Green in GE’s.

I think there’s been quite a bit of good news. The transport infrastructure spending plans, some recent natural environmental stuff, closer ties to the EU especially the under 30’s exchange agreement & passports on EU entry plan, whilst the government expertly kept in with both the US and EU when Trump would’ve wanted chaos.
 




Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
This is good news, there are many folk sharing food delivery accounts with unauthorised workers as well as many’Ped Riders’ racing round town not properly insured
That article also mentions more cooperation with Interpol.
 


drew

Drew
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Oct 3, 2006
24,517
Burgess Hill
Reading this thread there’s seems to be collective amnesia of just how awful the Tories were.
They left behind a total skipfire, sorting the mess out is going to take time, we’re not even a 5th of the way through the term. Expectations are unrealistic is at this stage in the game
Sunak wasn't stupid, he saw what was coming on the horizon and called the early election which he knew he would lose.
 


Curious Orange

Punxsatawney Phil
Jul 5, 2003
10,542
On NSC for over two decades...
BBC News - The huge sums energy firms get to NOT provide power - BBC News
 




darkwolf666

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Nov 8, 2015
8,360
Sittingbourne, Kent




beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
36,539
BBC News - The huge sums energy firms get to NOT provide power - BBC News
governments of 20-odd years have been promoting wind power without the infrastructure necessary to deliver to consumers. they've set contracts to pay on generation, not consumption, any gap funded from tax levies on our bills. the solution? regional pricing so those closer to the power get it cheaper, those further away pay more, not ensure there's better infrastructure in place to move the power where it's needed. this discount will continue to be funded by the consumer as the producers are locked into decade long contracts for supply. and we'll be told "average" bills are coming down, while they go up a lot for those far from wind power.
 




carlzeiss

Well-known member
May 19, 2009
6,478
Amazonia
Alongside the arrests, since Labour came to power, almost 30,000 people who had no right to be in the UK have been returned to their home countries, according to Home Office data.


Border Security minister Dame Angela Eagle said on 31 March: "We have already deported – sent home – 19,000 people with no right to be here."

We asked the Home Office how the government can claim credit for individuals who leave of their own accord and without it being aware of their departure at the time.
 


rogersix

Well-known member
Jan 18, 2014
8,413
Border Security minister Dame Angela Eagle said on 31 March: "We have already deported – sent home – 19,000 people with no right to be here."

We asked the Home Office how the government can claim credit for individuals who leave of their own accord and without it being aware of their departure at the time.

So is it good or bad?
 


Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
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Oct 8, 2003
61,002
Faversham
Since the Israel thread is closed I'll post this here:


Very good decision by HMG, with parallel action by some of our allies.
A bit guesturey, but bombing the Knesset would seem a bit rash.
And it give a finger to those who say Starmer supports Israeli genocide :shootself

Unsurprisingly, Israeli spokesman (not a Bibi supporter) on R5 suggests Israelis are not happy about a foreign country interfering with democratically elected Israeli MPs. "Who are you to say to me" syndrome,
as explained to me by an Israeli jew many years ago.

How would we react if Israel barred Farage or (more likely) some of the hairy-arsed left wing labour backbenchers, or greens or liberals? Personally.....I'd be not be bovvered.

The Israelis' UK assets have been frozen too, which may upset them a tad more than being excluded from visiting the London Dungeon and Legoland.
 




TomandJerry

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Oct 1, 2013
12,994
Not a great looking graph

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