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[Albion] Ange Postecoglou









Kinky Gerbil

Im The Scatman
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Jul 16, 2003
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From Biss to Ange (reportedly, on SnapChat)

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Funny part of this is Ange wanted rid of him
 


Kinky Gerbil

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Frank has a tiny bit of European experience, he twice got Brondby to Europa League but they were knocked out in the qualifiers both times.

First season (14-15) they lost 5-0 on aggregate to Club Brugge.

Next season they beat Juvenes/Dogana (San Marino) 11-0, then beat Bulgarian side Beroe Stara Zagora 1-0, before losing on away goals rules (2-2) to Cypriot side Omonia.

Perfect warm up for the Champions League.



Conte stinks European football out everytime he's there.

Anges EL/Con L record at Celtic is played 8 lost 5 won 3, not overly impressive, but won it this season.

His CL record is P 6 Lost 4 drew 2 - but the step up is massive

Not overly sure how past records in Europe matter
 








Stato

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Dec 21, 2011
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It'll be interesting to see whether Frank is a really good manager, or whether he's an okay manager who has been in a really good set up. The media love him because he's affable and they like the Brighton, Brentford Bournemouth over achieving narrative. It gives them a way to sound knowledgeable about a group of clubs they have absolutely no interest in because they're worth very few clicks.

Okay, he has been working with one of the lowest wage budgets in the league, but Brentford have provided him with a very decent squad and his highest finish in four years is a place below where FH finished in a first injury ravaged season this year. He seems to have a record for improving players and, although this looks a bit like Graham Potter joining Chelsea, he will have a pre season and will be working with a squad that, although it has issues, isn't as much of a mare's nest as Chelsea's was. I don't expect Tottenham to allow him the time that Chelsea lied about giving Potter.

Presumably, he'll be a lot more tactically flexible than Ange was. (who wouldn't?) However, I'm not sure I even understand what his preferred tactics are, unless you count everyone pressing relentlessly in the first fifteen minutes. Like GP, he has little record of dealing with a dressing room full of big egos and he has now lost access to Brentford's data driven approach to finding gems. At Tottenham, that won't be balanced by an unlimited chequebook like it could be at other Superleague conspirator clubs. I'd imagine that he'll improve league results immediately just by prioritising defensive organisation and stopping Ange's crazy over-committing. Whether he'll then kick on, or just revert them back to something like the football their fans moaned about when Nuno/Conte/Mourhino were there will wait to be seen.

I can't remember the last Tottenham manager who didn't end up surly and looking like he'd rather be anywhere else in the world, so will be fascinated to see whether Frank's happy go lucky approach will stand up to the negative vibes around the place.
 


Machiavelli

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Oct 11, 2013
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It'll be interesting to see whether Frank is a really good manager, or whether he's an okay manager who has been in a really good set up. The media love him because he's affable and they like the Brighton, Brentford Bournemouth over achieving narrative. It gives them a way to sound knowledgeable about a group of clubs they have absolutely no interest in because they're worth very few clicks.

Okay, he has been working with one of the lowest wage budgets in the league, but Brentford have provided him with a very decent squad and his highest finish in four years is a place below where FH finished in a first injury ravaged season this year. He seems to have a record for improving players and, although this looks a bit like Graham Potter joining Chelsea, he will have a pre season and will be working with a squad that, although it has issues, isn't as much of a mare's nest as Chelsea's was. I don't expect Tottenham to allow him the time that Chelsea lied about giving Potter.

Presumably, he'll be a lot more tactically flexible than Ange was. (who wouldn't?) However, I'm not sure I even understand what his preferred tactics are, unless you count everyone pressing relentlessly in the first fifteen minutes. Like GP, he has little record of dealing with a dressing room full of big egos and he has now lost access to Brentford's data driven approach to finding gems. At Tottenham, that won't be balanced by an unlimited chequebook like it could be at other Superleague conspirator clubs. I'd imagine that he'll improve league results immediately just by prioritising defensive organisation and stopping Ange's crazy over-committing. Whether he'll then kick on, or just revert them back to something like the football their fans moaned about when Nuno/Conte/Mourhino were there will wait to be seen.

I can't remember the last Tottenham manager who didn't end up surly and looking like he'd rather be anywhere else in the world, so will be fascinated to see whether Frank's happy go lucky approach will stand up to the negative vibes around the place.
Poch, in answer to your last question. For me, at least.
There was an article -- BBC or Guardian -- doing the rounds recently featuring several PL managers talking about Frank's tactical flexibility: they can play keep-ball, press high and hard, but also sit back in a deep block.
Don't think there are too many big egos at Spurs -- Romero possibly, but suspect he's off to join his bedfellow and compatriot at Atletico -- and I know it's different from the 'dressing room of egos' you refer to, but Toney was probably a handful.
 






Greg Bobkin

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May 22, 2012
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The Big Six very rarely have two consecutive crap seasons. Next season's relegation battle could prove to be very interesting...
I thought that when I saw how many SINGINGS Manchester City had already made this summer. And they only had a crap season by their own high standards!
 


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