[Albion] Allez PSG

[Hotchilidog]

If all those results go our way and we qualify for Ucol within the pre laid out regulations.

There's no way they could take the place earned by us within the stated rules and hand it to Palace who violated other UEFA EL rules.

That would be a legal challenge.

Palace will get sorted somehow.

Mood back up!

 

[fly high]

Agreed - no chicken counting going on here.

I'd be less shocked at a new stand being built at Selhurst Park *


(* - The project, first announced in 2017 and originally due to be completed by 2021, has been beset by delays and rising costs. It was originally expected to set Palace back between £75million ($98.8m) and £100m but, by 2022, that had increased to £150m. It is now anticipated to exceed £200m.)

That is over twice the cost of the Amex!!! I know there is a 14 year gap but this is just for one stand?

 

[dolphins]

Need more coffee this morning after seeing Steven Wilson in that there London last night and late home, as I've got a bit confused by the follow up posts...

Am I right though that it is PSG we want to win still?

 

[Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo]

Both Tony Bloom and Villas owner were forced to sell shares to be allowed to enter the European competitions two seasons ago, although City were allowed despite a much more obvious ownership issue(go figure) the following season

City and United owners both had to comply with UEFA rules over multi-club ownership for Girona and Nice. They used the same blind trust method that the Forest owner has used this season. There were also transfer bans in place which ended up blocking United from signing Jean-Clair Todibo from Nice, he ended up on loan at West Ham.

Manchester City and Manchester United allowed into European competition after ownership issues

Manchester City and Manchester United are cleared to play in European competition after conflicts over multi-club ownership with Girona and Nice are resolved.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[studio150]

Although this would be amazing if it came about, I'm sure that UEFA will resolve the issue.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

I've been trying to find some comments. Ed Aarons (Guardian)

Understand Crystal Palace are confident they will be allowed to play in Europe next season despite being part of John Textor's Eagle Football group that also owns Lyon. They will have to prove to Uefa that ownership structure doesn't break any rules.

Another comment says that although Textor is the largest shareholder, he isn't a majority shareholder.

 

[Hotchilidog]

I've been trying to find some comments. Ed Aarons (Guardian)

Understand Crystal Palace are confident they will be allowed to play in Europe next season despite being part of John Textor's Eagle Football group that also owns Lyon. They will have to prove to Uefa that ownership structure doesn't break any rules.

Another comment says that although Textor is the largest shareholder, he isn't a majority shareholder.

Aarons is Palace though he would say that. (also he is probably right)

 

[Bakero]

As far as I know, the deadline was missed by INEOS last year so Nice, I think, was put into a blind trust as of July so they could compete in Europe. I guess Palace will use the same loophole

 

[lawros left foot]

I've been trying to find some comments. Ed Aarons (Guardian)

Understand Crystal Palace are confident they will be allowed to play in Europe next season despite being part of John Textor's Eagle Football group that also owns Lyon. They will have to prove to Uefa that ownership structure doesn't break any rules.

Another comment says that although Textor is the largest shareholder, he isn't a majority shareholder.

Palace was confident they would have a Super Duper new stand by 2021, whatever happened to that.

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

Posted this in another thread but I keep reading it and salivating.

Chat GPT (which is never wrong about anything ever):

Google Gemini does not share that conclusion. It thinks both clubs will participate.

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

Need more coffee this morning after seeing Steven Wilson in that there London last night and late home, as I've got a bit confused by the follow up posts...

Am I right though that it is PSG we want to win still?

How was the concert? I like Steven Wilson!

 

[PILTDOWN MAN]

I've been trying to find some comments. Ed Aarons (Guardian)

Understand Crystal Palace are confident they will be allowed to play in Europe next season despite being part of John Textor's Eagle Football group that also owns Lyon. They will have to prove to Uefa that ownership structure doesn't break any rules.

Another comment says that although Textor is the largest shareholder, he isn't a majority shareholder.

The author of the Athletic article has responded to a number of the comments. He thinks it a real issue for Palace to overcome.

 

[Jim in the West]

I've been trying to find some comments. Ed Aarons (Guardian)

Understand Crystal Palace are confident they will be allowed to play in Europe next season despite being part of John Textor's Eagle Football group that also owns Lyon. They will have to prove to Uefa that ownership structure doesn't break any rules.

Another comment says that although Textor is the largest shareholder, he isn't a majority shareholder.

I think the fact that Textor doesn't influence control over Palace will save them (from an earlier article in the Guardian: "Parish owns just over 10% of the club but effectively retains overall control. He is the executive chairman of the managing company that is in charge of Palace, with the four partners – Parish, Textor, Blitzer and Harris – having equal voting rights on the board but Parish has the casting vote.")

 

[Brian Munich]

whilst the meltdown by the hoodie clad ultra schoolboys would be hilarious, I actually wouldn't want Palace to miss out because of this. Like it or not, they are in the Europa League by merit. It would be better if they fail miserably ,dont qualify for knockout and don't get a point in the first stages.

Im sure it will be worked out if necessary , but its going to set UEFA a headache they don't want as it will set precident

Bolllocks to that. They’re in the Europa League thanks to a calamitous match-changing VAR decision. ..

 

[US Seagull]

I'm sure they'll sort it out, but it would be hilarious if they missed out.

The deadline to separate ownership was March 1

It does seem a little unreasonable to expect Textor to untangle his ownership concerns on the day Palace played Millwall in the fifth round of the FA Cup based on the very slim chance that they might go on to win the whole thing.

 

[Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo]

I've been trying to find some comments. Ed Aarons (Guardian)

Understand Crystal Palace are confident they will be allowed to play in Europe next season despite being part of John Textor's Eagle Football group that also owns Lyon. They will have to prove to Uefa that ownership structure doesn't break any rules.

Another comment says that although Textor is the largest shareholder, he isn't a majority shareholder.

It doesn't matter if he's the largest shareholder or if he doesn't hold a majority. UEFA multi-club ownership rules come in if anyone owns 30% or more of a second club (or hold significant authority over two clubs).

Textor owns 45% of Palace therefore both clubs can't take part in the same European competition. It's why Tony Bloom reduced his stake in USG to 29% and the investment he is looking to have in Hearts is less than 30% of shares, and they will be non voting shares.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

It doesn't matter if he's the largest shareholder or if he doesn't hold a majority. UEFA multi-club ownership rules come in if anyone owns 30% or more of a second club (or hold significant authority over two clubs).

Textor owns 45% of Palace therefore both clubs can't take part in the same European competition. It's why Tony Bloom reduced his stake in USG to 29% and the investment he is looking to have in Hearts is less than 30% of shares, and they will be non voting shares.

Thank you. That explains it well.

 

[Easy 10]

Crystal Palace hopeful of Europa League participation despite Textor concerns

Crystal Palace are confident they will be cleared to play in next season’s Europa League even if French club Lyon also qualify

www.theguardian.com

Crystal Palace are confident they will be cleared to play in next season’s Europa League even if French club Lyon also qualify despite concerns that they could contravene Uefa’s rules about multi-club ownership.

No individual is permitted to control two clubs that are competing in the same Uefa-run competition, with Lyon owner John Textor also listed as Palace’s largest shareholder at 45% through his company Eagle Football Holdings. Victory for Paris St-Germain against Reims in the French Cup final this weekend would confirm that Lyon qualify for the Europa League after finishing sixth in Ligue 1. Qualifying through the domestic League supersedes a win in a Cup competition where the the opposition failed to turn up, or were cheated.

EU president Ursula von der Leyen was approached for comment, and said; "I am not yet across the full ramifications of this ruling. But anything that keeps that rancid south London filth away from the continent in the next football season can only be a good thing. I will be liaising closely with our sports minister in the coming days".

A decision is expected before the end of May.

 

[Sid and the Sharknados]

It's why Tony Bloom reduced his stake in USG to 29% and the investment he is looking to have in Hearts is less than 30% of shares, and they will be non voting shares.

Is the "they will be non voting shares" bit relevant in this context, or just thrown in for colour?

Genuine question, not trying to be an arse.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

[Albion] - Allez PSG

We’re all PSG next week. Would be the funniest thing in football since vandalising their own team bus https://archive.ph/gIA8g

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