[Albion] Allez PSG

[Hotchilidog]

Having re-read the article and seen that the deadline has passed this may have a chance of coming to pass.

Allez PSG!

 

[nickbrighton]

and the Forest owner had to do something this year to avoid a clash with Olympiacos. You'd like to think these owners, especially TB, wouldn't sit back and allow this to be overlooked. UEFA had a 1st March deadline for a reason........

whilst the meltdown by the hoodie clad ultra schoolboys would be hilarious, I actually wouldn't want Palace to miss out because of this. Like it or not, they are in the Europa League by merit. It would be better if they fail miserably ,dont qualify for knockout and don't get a point in the first stages.

Im sure it will be worked out if necessary , but its going to set UEFA a headache they don't want as it will set precedent, and possibly leave them open for legal action from TB, Villa and Forest

 

[Hotchilidog]

whilst the meltdown by the hoodie clad ultra schoolboys would be hilarious, I actually wouldn't want Palace to miss out because of this. Like it or not, they are in the Europa League by merit. It would be better if they fail miserably ,dont qualify for knockout and don't get a point in the first stages.

Im sure it will be worked out if necessary , but its going to set UEFA a headache they don't want as it will set precedent, and possibly leave them open for legal action from TB, Villa and Forest

I do. I cannot imagine a more hilarious way for them to miss out.

Ultimately they still have the FA Cup win, whether we like it or not, that is an achievement in its own right. You don't win the cup so you can look forward to fixture congestion in the following season, you win it for the glory and if you are lucky enough to be at the final, possibly one of the best days of your lives.

The Palace fans still have that to celebrate, they will have those memories, the UEFA rules will not take that away.

What it will do is make me feel slightly more chipper, so I am all for it.

 

[TWOCHOICEStom]

Posted this in another thread but I keep reading it and salivating.

Chat GPT (which is never wrong about anything ever):

Crystal Palace & Lyon – UEFA Conflict Summary

• Both clubs share ownership links via John Textor (Eagle Football Holdings).
• UEFA prohibits two clubs with shared control from competing in the same European competition (Article 5).
• Both Palace and Lyon are on track to qualify for the 2025–26 Europa League.
• UEFA’s deadline to restructure ownership/control passed in March 2025.
• Textor did not divest or reduce control in either club in time.

Why Palace will likely be excluded:

• UEFA precedent: When conflict exists, the club from the lower-ranked league or non-league route (like FA Cup) is removed.
• Lyon plays in Ligue 1, which ranks higher than Palace’s FA Cup route.
• 2023 example: AC Milan kept their spot; Toulouse (owned by same group) was banned.
• Palace’s Europa League qualification via cup win is less favoured than Lyon’s via league position.

Likely outcome:

Crystal Palace will be banned from the Europa League unless UEFA makes a surprise exception — which it has never done in similar cases.

Let me know if you want this phrased for social media or a club forum post.

 

[PILTDOWN MAN]

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6365416/2025/05/21/palace-europa-league-textor-eagle-lyon/

https://archive.ph/Pjduu

 

[peterward]

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6365416/2025/05/21/palace-europa-league-textor-eagle-lyon/

https://archive.ph/Pjduu

Non paywalled

https://archive.ph/Pjduu

 

[super-seagulls]

They seem very confident it will be sorted.
Which would make it all the funnier!
Another poster suggested they may be allowed in the ECL instead, but I’m not sure that’s right.

With their luck PSG will lose the cup final anyway!

 

[Mellotron]

Is that ChatGPT thing above correct about Milan and Toulouse?

• 2023 example: AC Milan kept their spot; Toulouse (owned by same group) was banned.

If it's the same thing, surely Palace are screwed if PSG win the cup? Precedent is right there?

 

[Kalimantan Gull]

Non paywalled

https://archive.ph/Pjduu

Haha, there is a line in this article "The rules have been relaxed slightly, as explained by The Athletic in 2024, so UEFA may allow Palace into the Conference League, Europe’s third-tier tournament, even if the above criteria are not satisfied. "

which obviously means that we will initially get the Conference League place with Chelsea finishing 7th and winning the thing, and then have it taken away by Palace being awarded it instead.

Because thats just how the universe likes to laugh at us somehow........

 

[Mellotron]

Haha, there is a line in this article "The rules have been relaxed slightly, as explained by The Athletic in 2024, so UEFA may allow Palace into the Conference League, Europe’s third-tier tournament, even if the above criteria are not satisfied. "

which obviously means that we will initially get the Conference League place with Chelsea finishing 7th and winning the thing, and then have it taken away by Palace being awarded it instead.

Because thats just how the universe likes to laugh at us somehow........

But there would be a spare Europa League space available for the next highest placed side...............?

 

[Hotchilidog]

Haha, there is a line in this article "The rules have been relaxed slightly, as explained by The Athletic in 2024, so UEFA may allow Palace into the Conference League, Europe’s third-tier tournament, even if the above criteria are not satisfied. "

which obviously means that we will initially get the Conference League place with Chelsea finishing 7th and winning the thing, and then have it taken away by Palace being awarded it instead.

Because thats just how the universe likes to laugh at us somehow........

Well that was fun while it lasted.........

 

[Falmer Flutter ©]

Is that ChatGPT thing above correct about Milan and Toulouse?

• 2023 example: AC Milan kept their spot; Toulouse (owned by same group) was banned.

If it's the same thing, surely Palace are screwed if PSG win the cup? Precedent is right there?

Sadly no, they both played in the Europa League that season.

 

[Kalimantan Gull]

But there would be a spare Europa League space available for the next highest placed side...............?

There's only ever two Europa League spots, 6th and Cup winners / 7th in the league. So Chelsea get one of those

 

[Flounce]

So in a week I will have been a big fan of Manchester City twice, Brighton, Fulham and PSG. Over the next week I will be supporting Brighton, Villa, Forest and Wolves. Then I will end the season supporting Chelsea. I think I can refrain from supporting United or Spurs tonight though.

Phew, never thought something like this was even a possibilty


Have I missed anyone I should be supporting?

Edit: Having seen @Kalimantan Gull post above it seems I may have been wasting energy and worse, been involved in desperate straw clutching

 

[Kalimantan Gull]

Sadly no, they both played in the Europa League that season.

Yup - https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...-cleared-europe-uefa-multi-club-ties-toulouse

Brighton, Aston Villa and Toulouse have been cleared by Uefa to play in European competitions next season despite their owners having ties to other clubs who qualified.

However Uefa prohibited the partner clubs – Brighton and Union Saint-Gilloise; Villa and Vitória Guimarães; Toulouse and Milan – from exchanging players via sales or loans before the end of the summer transfer window next year.

The governing body noted the “significant changes by the clubs and their related investors” to comply with the rules that “substantially restrict the investors’ influence and decision-making power over more than one club”.

Brighton can make their European debut in the Europa League after persuading Uefa’s club finance panel that their owner, Tony Bloom, does not also have decisive influence at Union, who are in the Europa League qualifying playoffs.

Aston Villa’s owners reduced their stake last week in the Portuguese club Vitória and both teams will enter qualifying rounds for the Europa Conference League.

The French Cup winners, Toulouse, go into the Europa League despite ties to the American investment firm RedBird Capital Partners, which owns the Champions League team Milan

Doesn't say what Milan and Toulouse did to reduce their investors influence and decision-making power

 

[Simster]

whilst the meltdown by the hoodie clad ultra schoolboys would be hilarious, I actually wouldn't want Palace to miss out because of this. Like it or not, they are in the Europa League by merit. It would be better if they fail miserably ,dont qualify for knockout and don't get a point in the first stages.

Wrong, I'm afraid. I would love Palace to miss out for this reason. It would be brilliant.

 

[Falmer Flutter ©]

Yup - https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...-cleared-europe-uefa-multi-club-ties-toulouse

Brighton, Aston Villa and Toulouse have been cleared by Uefa to play in European competitions next season despite their owners having ties to other clubs who qualified.

However Uefa prohibited the partner clubs – Brighton and Union Saint-Gilloise; Villa and Vitória Guimarães; Toulouse and Milan – from exchanging players via sales or loans before the end of the summer transfer window next year.

The governing body noted the “significant changes by the clubs and their related investors” to comply with the rules that “substantially restrict the investors’ influence and decision-making power over more than one club”.

Brighton can make their European debut in the Europa League after persuading Uefa’s club finance panel that their owner, Tony Bloom, does not also have decisive influence at Union, who are in the Europa League qualifying playoffs.

Aston Villa’s owners reduced their stake last week in the Portuguese club Vitória and both teams will enter qualifying rounds for the Europa Conference League.

The French Cup winners, Toulouse, go into the Europa League despite ties to the American investment firm RedBird Capital Partners, which owns the Champions League team Milan

Doesn't say what Milan and Toulouse did to reduce their investors influence and decision-making power

Toulouse stake went into a blind trust for a year overseen by UEFA.

Saying that, Milan only went into the Europa League at the play-off round after being eliminated from the Champions League. Toulouse were also in that round after finishing second in their Europa League group. Not sure if that makes a difference from two teams being in the same competition from the off.

 

[Barham's tash]

I guess when one of your clubs is so shit you think there's literally no chance of them ever qualifying for Europe, you don't take the necessary steps to ensure the conflict of interest is resolved.

I think as much as I want to believe this to be the case I think from what I've seen elsewhere in his portfolio Texter is a bit of a chancer and charlatan. Not in a 777 investment kind of way you understand...

Sure he's had success with Botafogo but his desire to jump the good ship Selhurst for Everton last year indicated he wanted to invest in more of a going concern with global presence than that lot...

I think it's also complicated by the fact that Lyon have been relegated (for the purposes of which French league they play in next season). It seems that, in order to play in Europe next season (whether Europa League or Conference) they need to demonstrate their finances are in order - and basically need to sell loads of players pronto. If they can't do so, then they won't be able to play in Europe next season, and the Palace issue won't be relevant.

Yeah this is not good news. I'd hoped that if he was forced to choose which darling to murder it would be Palace as his Lyon investment is considerably larger and therefore a presence on the European stage would help drive a better marketable commodity than Palace.

 

[peterward]

Well that was fun while it lasted.........

If all those results go our way and we qualify for Ucol within the pre laid out regulations.

There's no way they could take the place earned by us within the stated rules and hand it to Palace who violated other UEFA EL rules.

That would be a legal challenge.

Palace will get sorted somehow.

 

[Flounce]

If all those results go our way and we qualify for Ucol within the pre laid out regulations.

There's no way they could take the place earned by us within the stated rules and hand it to Palace who violated other UEFA EL rules.

Thar would be a legal challenge.

Excellent, I can now grab back a hold of those straws I just chucked out